Re: A better working principle

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oriel36 <kelleher.gerald@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 19, 4:12 pm, Timberwoof <timberwoof.s...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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 oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have nothing to say to guys who believe in an ee concept that makes
a flat Earth look intelligent,I have much to say to plate tectonics
guys who are dragging those great outlines into a similar situation
by
ignoring geodynamics.It is almost harder to ignore geodynamics than to
take it into account in respect to geological evolutionary influences
but so far,I have the distinct and unpleasant feeling that the
trajectory of reasoning  is now lost ,a reasoning which uses stellar
dynamics to generalise rotational principles and apply them to the
Earth first and then graft in the mechanism as a more productive
solution for plate motion.

What people hope to achieve by ignoring geodynamics I do not know,it
has been on the table in its present form for a good few years now
with no pressure to adopt it,basically it exists as a halting
mechanism to stop 'convection cells' diluting the main argument for
plate motion and its long and short term effects.

I cannot imagine what dynamicists are going to apply to the Earth's
interior to generate the  40 km spherical deviation insofar as the
generalised rotational dynamics will almost certainly involve
differential rotation of the rotating composition in a fluid/flexible
state.There is no great upheavel with current plate tectonic outlines
other than the more productive geodynamics will answer more questions
than it will raise and besides,the 'convection cell' notions in
setting the internal composition and viscosity is not so important or
so far down the road that it cannot  be set aside for a more realistic
approach.

Maybe the problems are no longer technical but the bigger headache of
the 'scientific method' ideologies and that I cannot get involved in
insofar as it is what is generating junk concepts which are now in
competition with plate tectonics or keeping a geostationary mechanism.

Let me see if I can summarize your rambling statement.

You don't think that geophysicists can figure out why the Earth is
oblate rather than spherical. While you think that differential rotation
(which happens in stars) occurs in the Earth, you're adamant that
convection (which happens in stars) does not happen in the Earth. And
you have no data to support any of your claims.

Do I have it right?


Convection in stars is speculative,a star's rotation and differntial
rotation is not and neither is variations in maximum Equatorial
speed,variations in differential rotation rates and variation in
sphericity.

At this stage I think both you with your convection cells notions and
the ee guys are well suited to each other leaving me to remain
content with geodynamics and its geological influences.I would have
nothing to gain with people who wish to remain with a thermally driven
convection cells and no geodynamics involved in geological evolution
no more than I would benefit from discussing matters with ee guys.


If you cannot follow the reasoning in its most basic outlines from
stellar rotational dynamics to generalised rotational dynamics in the
form of differential rotation bands and sphericity

Oh, I followed the reasoning. I just don't agree with it.

then perhaps plate
tectonics is lost to a balooning or geostationary Earth ideas.Go ahead
and taunt each other and enjoy your wonderful convection cells notions
and the composition,viscosity and all that comes with it.It is truly a
remarkable conclusion to plate tectonics and befitting the
intelligence of people who cannot make a simple leap from observed
rotational dynamics and spheriocity even though elements of it have
been known for centuries,Differential rotation adds more detail n but
I am not going to bother appealing to guys who do not have the
intelligence to recognise it as a generalised dynamic.

Well, there you go again, insulting people's intelligence rather than
making intelligent arguments of your own, supported by actual data.

Be happy with your geostationary mechanism and keep those expanding
Earth guys at bay with your sharp intellects,do you hear now and make
sure you growl and sound authoritative.

I don't have to growl or try to sound authoritative. I have the luxury
of plenty of facts on my side.

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ?Chris L.
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