Warming - Cooling - Climate will change

Scotty wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:29:08 -0700 (PDT), Alastair
> <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> <big snip>
>
>> Will,
>>
> As a "denier", I can't let this pass. I don't know anybody who denies that the
> globe is warming (or even Mars, for that matter). It has been warming for the
> last 400 years since the last mini ice-age.
>
> What I, and other deniers deny is the Al Gore thesis that it is CAUSED by CO2
> and that reducing CO2 will reverse the warming.
>
> The warming started 400 years ago, long before the start of the Industrial
> Revolution. It is debatable that we might have reached a turning point. The
> warmest year in the last century was 1934, the second warmest was 1998 and it
> has been cooling ever since. The temps for 2007 puts us back to temps that last
> occurred in the '80s.
>> Cheers, Alastair.

Recently I handled a clipping from Time(?) about 1980. For the previous 3 - 4 decades global temperatures had been creeping down. Glaciers were advancing, and the Arctic ice cap was growing each year. Scientists are concerned we may be entering a new ice age.

Historically England has been warm enough to grow grapes for wine. Now?
Historically England has been cold enough the Thames would freeze for Ice Fairs. Now?
Canadian tundra has tree stumps, the tree line used to be farther North.

I do NOT deny Al Gore is a politician.

Jim Lillie -- engineer
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