Re: Now, our famous geologist confuses continental rift and ocean.


"Florian" <auxotectonics_deletethis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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George <George@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Check Doglioni's paper. He presents data proving that the oceanic crust
is not resistant enough.

I've checked his entire list of papers on his web site:

http://tetide.geo.uniroma1.it/sciterra/sezioni/doglioni/Doglioni_home.html

None of them suggest that he thinks that the Earth is expanding.

He's not there yet. He is just beginning to realize that something is
wrong in plate tectonics mechanisms.

Bwhahahaha!!! So not only are you a magician who can make the Earth expand
with EE fairy dust, but you can read the minds of geologists who don't
actually agree with you. You are insane, truly you are.

More lies. There are evidence of water in the deep mantle.

There is evidence for H20 in the form of hydrated minerals in the
upper
mantle, and possibly even a bit deeper.

That is still water that get released during phase changes!

Since every single known specimen of mantle rock is anhydrous (other than
a
few hydrated minerals from upper mantle rocks in a very few specific
locations), what evidence do you have that water gets released due to
phase
changes in the mantle? The Olivine-spinel transition certainly doesn't
involve hydrated minerals.

Simplifying the scheme the way you do leads nowhere. The mantle is not
homogenous and what takes place at upduction is different than
elsewhere. After all, that's why they are upduction zone.

You can repeat that mantra all night but you still haven't answered my
question.

There is no evidence of free water

Free water? Yet another moronic strawman.

Great, so we agree that there is no free water in the mantle. That's a
start.

Do you really know what is a strawman? Do you understand why the above
is a strawman? Obviously not.

So the presence of the rift in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean (the
Mid-Atlantic Ridge) is evidence that the Atlantic Ocean is NOT an
ocean?

Yet another moronic strawman.

I'm just using your logic

No. You invent bull***.


No sir, I don't have to invent bull***. You bring enough to the
conversation for the both of us.

The basement in the ECRB is not granite or rhyolite. It is
basalt. The granite and rhyolite is younger, and formed mostly during
the
Grenville orogeny.

No. It formed just before the Grenville orogeny.

Regardless, the rift is composed of basalts. Do you know of a rift that
isn't composed of basalt?

The key in continental crust production is water. It comes from
"subducted" slabs in the plate tectonics framework but from the
deep
interior in the auxotectonics framework.

I find it disingenuous (and rather delusional)

what? the model is refined in the new framework. what do you
imagine?
that everything has to be trashed? ludicrous.

You've done exactly that so far.

Bull***.

So you are saying that you haven't trashed everything that has been done
so
far? You seem to have pretty much sliced and diced eveyone's work you've
quoted here. Care to elaborate on your "bull***" statement?

When there is a new paradigm, some stuff keeps its interpretation
intact, and some other stuff must be reinterpretated in the light of the
new paradigm. Trashing everything is stupid.

Then why are you doing it? Oh, by the way, your paradigm has holes large
enough to drive an aricraft carrier through it.

For instance, you've turned subduction
zones upside down and called them upduction zones, when of course,
there
is no sane reason for doing so.

So according to Ron Yates, data, observations, measurements are "no
sane
reason".

When you cherry pick the work of others and make claims about that work
that
is NOT supported by any of those authors, [...]

Reinterpretating data in a new framework is not cherry picking.
No surprise that you can't make the difference.

Translation: Floppy massages data until he decides it says what he believes
it to say, whether it does or not. His framework is called the knitting
imaginary sweaters framework. He learned it in a little padded cell in some
unknown location out in the French countryside.

George


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