Re: What happens here, anyway?

On Dec 10, 6:33 pm, don findlay <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
mike3 wrote:
On Dec 8, 7:38 pm, don findlay <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
mike3 wrote:
On Nov 28, 6:20 pm, auxotectonics_deletethis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Florian) wrote:
mike3 <mike4...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, how come none of the gravity measuring experiments have detected
the G increase?

That statement demonstrate that you don't know how those gravity
measurements are made. Never heard about ITRF?

Then you will be able to provide papers or results showing the
consistent
g increase.

Can you do that?

"G" ?? Until you can provide some bumph that will stand up in court
explaining how mass (meaning you) can manage to exert a force on the
farthest celestial body (or even the nearest one for that matter - the
Moon), the whole notion of increase decrease or any other crease has
no relevance whatsoever.

WTF? You mean you deny the existence of gravity?! WHAT THEN IS KEEPING
THE DARN MOON IN ORBIT???? What keeps things stuck to the planet?

What you should therefore do is explain why Newton's (or better,
Einstein's) laws
about gravity don't apply here. Explain why they work so well for
predicting the
motions of planets and even galaxies of stars, yet do _not_ work when
dealing
with Earth Growth.

You cannot deny there is some force felt by any object near a planet
like the Earth,
so what Newton's, etc. models do, among other things, is let us figure
out that
force given the parameters such as the mass of the planet. When one
plugs this
in, along with the assumed expansion rate from the theory, one gets
the result that
an object that weighs 1 N right now is slowing increasing in weight
(not necessarily
mass) at the rate of around 34 nN/a, and this rate itself is changing
too, increasing,
actually. Unless of course the Earth conveniently quit growing when we
came along,
which of course makes the theory more pseudoscientific: you keep
modifying it
until it cannot be tested.

It's a rather presumptuous claim is it not - that simply by your
existence you are helping to hold this universe together. Mind you, I
don't dispute it. Obviously you wouldn't manage this gargantuan feat
all on your tod, ...you would need some help from a friend. Which is
where I would step in. But I still think we would need some shackles
and U-bolts and tension irons and things of sort, and some positive
action, rather than relying on more of the same (you and me asleep in
bed). But you never know. The world is a strange place.

And we also have around 10^70 if not more particles (don't remember
the
number exactly off the top of my head), all working together to "hold
it all
together", so it doesn't seem too "gargantuan" after all.

And isn't it pretty presumptuous to think that atoms and entire
molecules
are forming right now inside the planet, making it get bigger and
bigger like
a kid blowing up a balloon? Don't you think you'd need some little
assemblers
or something in there with the right recipe for the molecules and
stuff to
ensure the composition all turns out right? But hey, it's a strange
world!

Do you see how silly what you are arguing for really is?

I'm not arguing against the existence of gravity.  I'm arguing that
the observable surface geological facts indicate an Earth that's
getting bigger.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No they don't.

Brad
.

Relevant Pages

  • Project Genesis
    ... Nitrogen is the most abundant gas in the earth ... We compare the mass of the earth to the mass of the sun, ... Let the distance between them be r. ... n is the planet number and r is its distance from the sun. ...
    (sci.bio.evolution)
  • Project Genesis Revised
    ... Nitrogen is the most abundant gas in the earth ... We compare the mass of the earth to the mass of the sun, ... Let the distance between them be r. ... n is the planet number and r is its distance from the sun. ...
    (sci.bio.evolution)
  • Re: What happens here, anyway?
    ... with Earth Growth. ... force given the parameters such as the mass of the planet. ... I'm not arguing against the existence of gravity. ...
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  • Re: What happens here, anyway?
    ... � Until you can provide some bumph that will stand up in court ... with Earth Growth. ... You cannot deny there is some force felt by any object near a planet ... I'm not arguing against the existence of gravity. ...
    (sci.geo.geology)
  • Re: Overall disappointing...
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