Re: A testing time..

On Feb 7, 3:02 am, Bruce Bathurst <bruce.bathu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:32 pm, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As for staying or going,it hardly matters because of the means you
approach geological topics, they certainly are not for me and I have
nothing to say against them.

Oh, I think it matters much to you. All the 'discussions' here are
just gossip about people, which has driven away almost all scientists.
One more driven away would be another success for your virtual French
Revolution.

What has irritated you about my 'approach to science' is my emphasis
on evidence and prediction, as opposed to the excitement of
explanation an idea can give one. This is not empiricism, though I am
one. It is instead an attempt to remove the subjective from science
and move it to a more social layer that I call 'metascience' (similar
to logic & metalogic). My scientific methodology is founded upon a
detailed study of D.T. Suzuki's 'Introduction to Mahayana Buddhism'
and 'The Concept of No Mind'. It has since been modified by works of
Duhem, Einstein, Bridgman, and other scientists.

My explanations took years of study: they are to clarify, not impress.
There is a small work on thermodynamics for geology I should like
someday to write. It will contain the details of my approach to
science, starting with classification and equivalence. Be sure to
avoid it.

Once you mentioned that the moon
influences planetary spherical deviation I knew where you were coming
from ( Velikovsky,Hapgood  and that era),like I said,these things are
from another era and no more can be said.

Velikovsky? :-)

That was from Harold Jeffrey's 'The Earth', which geophysicists still
read. Though written before 'Plate Tectonics' was introduced as a
theory, he takes a 'what if' approach to geophysical (astrophysical)
phenomena's effect on what geologists normally study. One was a
backward calculation of the moon's orbit with time. Where was the moon
when various plates broke apart? What affect had it on the oblateness
of the geoid? How has the length of a day changed?

The Jet Propulsion Laboratory did a study a while back on the effect
of an astronomical body half the size of the Earth colliding with it.
What did this Precambrian collision produce? Are Jeffrey's
calculations really too old for you to spend your time on? What your
discovery of the oblateness of the geoid would suggest to an
operationally positivist Buddhist is that you have, at best, placed
limits on the viscous behavior of the Earth's interior: it either
preserves the shape imposed by the moon at its closest point (and the
Earth's rotational veocity), preserves the current 1 foot Earth tide,
accumulated over time until the Earth's force of relaxation equals it,
and many more possibilities. You've done the calculations. Why don't
you post them and compare the role of moon, rotational flattening,
&c.

One problem with concluding anything, it would appear to an amateur in
this field, is not knowing the change in mechanical behavior of the
Earth with depth: viscosity, hysteresis, effect of temperature &
pressure, &c. You can use the oblateness of the Earth to refine models
made, I'm guessing that was added to the models long ago, even before
Jeffrey's day.

I don't 'hate' this group. Hate I leave in the minds of those here. I
am disappointed, for I was party responsible for releasing USENET to
the public. I was supposed to give clear, authoritative answers to the
public. I don't think that's possible, now.

Bruce Bathurst, PhD
Geologist

Sorry sunshine,I would love to talk to you at length but I have to wax
my car today ,however, when you get around to appreciating a round
and rotating Earth with the specifics of the spherical deviation in
terms of a rotating viscous interior then maybe I will consider that
you have something to say.No offense to those guys who worked with the
stationary Earth 'convection cell' mechanism but I use Google Earth
and already known correlations to propose things like crustal
adjustment across the less than spherical Earth ,crustal development
off the mid Atlantic ridge and many other indicators that the Earth is
rotating and that rotation has geological consequences.

.

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