Re: REALITIES OF GLOBAL WARMING

From: hanson (hanson_at_quick.net)
Date: 10/20/04 

Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:09:31 GMT

"Richard" <no.spam@spam.net> wrote in message
news:4176bf35$0$78279$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> Ever since the Kyoto agreements I've been always very much in favor of
> restricting emissions. This ofcourse heavily influenced by our European
> governments who keeps denying other views. Lately I've been reading into
> a more opposing view.
>
[hanson]
.....Why are you even diddling with emission restrictions? That's
just the gimmick. Kydioto is about money...*ENVIRO-DOLLARS!*

The *sources*, the socalled "polluters", which finance the Kydioto
enviro shits who whine so loud, have learned how to be just like
the greenies & know now how to make money off the "environment"
too, just like the green turds do. Environmentalism is just a vicious
$$$$$$$$$$$ circle jerk for $$$$$money$$$$$, that's THAT's ALL.

Strangely, the driving force in this sick green game, that makes NO
MONEY, are all those unpaid little green idiots who whine and cry,
and do enable all the other participants to harvest the green $$$$
thru' permit charges, user fees and enviro- & carbon surtaxes.

Naturally, the environment doesn't get any benefit in this phony,
diabolical green game. Here, just have a look and see who the big
green money players are......ahahaha.. AHAHAHA.....none of them
have anything to do with the "environment" except that they have
discovered that the real environment that counts is YOUR GREEN$$
IN YOUR WALLET.......ahahahahaha........see, here in
http://www.nuclear.com/environment/climate_policy/default.html
in section "climate" one reads under an enormous amount of out
and out green ***, designed to promote fears to make the carbon
tax a reality, so that the sharpies amongst green turds can collect
their new **green admin-fees** and other graft..... Quotes say:

== OIL COMPANIES like BP, Shell and RWE in Germany, have been
among the most active in the trading of **permits*..... AHAHAHAHA
== CO2 credit trading draws bankers' interest as fundamental
driver of coal, gas, metals markets........ahahahaha......AHAHAHA...
== As carbon emissions trading increases, the financial services
industry is preparing itself for a potentially lucrative market.....
== carbon emissions value at $15 a tonne, the surplus would be
worth just under $500 million to the Government.
== At Chicago Climate Exchange prices jumped to over US$11 per
tonne ($40/tC) following the Russian announcement
== The price of CO2 in Europe rose 20% to nearly euros 10 (£7) per
tonne on the back of the news from Moscow last night,
== Estimates the financial value of the European carbon market will
be worth 10 BILLION euros (£6.9bn) a year by 2007.

Where is the "environment here?.....It only shows that the rich
get richer and the poor get poorer in this global Kydioto Carbon
TAX trading scam. And all the poor, all the little green idiots,
they DO PAY for all this....it's their $$$$ that go into the pockets of
these rich oil-and banking bastards, fat bureaucrats & corrupt politicians.
YOU MADE YOURSELF POORER, all you well meaning little green idiots!

As if that were not bad enough, there is **precedent** that such
Carbon trading scams do NOT work, as is evident now as a result
from a TRIAL RUN for the CARBON TAX, in a Kydioto-type carbon
trading scheme (1991-2002) in Califorina, under then aeolinan chief
Flatu Lenz, that was/got so fucked up that they stopped the debacle
after 10 years during which, it now turns out that, green $$$ corruption
was so rampant, that now finally after years of reviews a green self
enriches administrator will go to jail:
Re: Smog Credit Trader Held in Fraud Case
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environment/?track=mainnav-environment
or http://www.ocefoundation.org/LATimes061704.pdf
or http://www.faultline.org/archives/2004_06.html
or http://reason.com/hitandrun/005705.shtml .....wherein it says:
......... and the LA Times reported -- Friday, June 18, 2004
Subjects: Smog, Fraud, Incentives, Arrests, Emissions trading
Locations: Los Angeles California -- People: Sholtz, Anne
Companies: South Coast Air Quality Management District's Carter
told U.S. Magistrate Judge Patrick Walsh:
"that $13 million passed through [Anne Sholtz]'s **personal** bank
account at Wells Fargo alone during 2002. .... Amongst the schemes
she concocted was the selling of the same pollution credits to different
companies".....

But, despite yet not surprisingly, the green shits are pressing ahead, on
an inter national scale, and expand this CARBON TAX CON globally. It
supposedly will be administered by the UN which, as can be seen, was
extremely efficient with Sholtz type scams in Iraq's FOOD FOR OIL
program. The Carbon tax program will be larger by magnitudes !!!!...

There, there, all you well meaning enviro activists, green turds,
enablers, facilitators and promoters of Carbon trading scams, IPCC
and Kydioto protocols: THAT IS WHAT CAN LOOK FORWARD TO!
Some sharp green turds will make $$Billions and you little green
idiots WILL PAY & PAY.......and the GW WILL CONTINUE! Unabated!
$$$$$$ == ONLY GREEN DOLLARS WILL BE TRADED == $$$$$$$
Either you fools are suspect of abetting such enviro crooks or you
are extraordinarily naive, stupid and brainless green assholes.........

But now, the Carbon Trading story gets even better......ahahaha..:

The Russians apparently just have ratified the Kydioto scam:
Smart move on their part.....and now all you little green idiots
can sing in/with great cheer:
----------- "...it's green, green, green
----------- on the far side of the hill
----------- and now that we got the carbon tax
----------- life is much more red-green still....."

ahahaha......BUT, listen you little green idiots, you obviously
do not realize that you have been fucked by the Ruskies,
galore!,...ahahahahaha...because you don't even know that
you are/and have been an unpaid enabler and facilitator
to this grand red-green con scam........ahahahaha.....

The Russians will get and take their CO2 emission credits,
these green $$$$$$....NO doubt!....and then they'll pay with
these green $$$$ for their just announced upgrading of their
missile und nuke arsenal...AHAHAHAHAHA...the RUSKIES
fucked you little green idiots!!!!!...ahahaha.....AHAHAHAHA..

The Ruskies, as usual, have no intent with Kydioto compliance
in the first place....but you dreamy-eyed, well-intended
little green idiots do not believe it. ....ahanahaha...But, then
when you finally complain to the Ruskies, they will prove
to you immediately and proudly that they indeed did & do so,
by showing you their brand-new shiny, upgraded arsenal
of ballistic missiles tipped with their latest multimega ton
nukes and they'll insist that this their way of complying!

They'll even offer you caviar & vodka to thank you for your
help....for that "carbon tax" which YOU have paid....and that
carbon that you now can be POTENTIALLY incinerated into
because of your own green greed and enviro fanaticism.....
AHAHAHA.........ahahahaha........AHAHAHAHAHAAHA.....

See, how you fucked yourself, AGAIN, you little green idiots
and you didn't even make a fucking dime.....AHAHAHAHA..
When will that dawn on you little green idiots .....ahahahaha
>
>
[Richard]
> One page I read yesterday pointed out that approx 400 mln years ago
> levels of CO2 approached (or exceeded) 4000 ppm. And that with average
> global temperatures slightly higher (like 1.5C) than today. Move up into
> the future, 50 mln years ago levels of CO2 have lowered to slightly
> lower than 1000 ppm. Temperatures however where at an alltime high.. 10C
> higher than today! (R.A. Berner, 2001 (GEOCARB III))
>
> Article:
> http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html
>
> Another interesting story extends on debunking Mann's et al
> data-interpretations (the famous "Northern
> Hemisphere Temperatures During the Past Millennium: Inferences,
> Uncertainties, and Limitations" piece that heavily influenced the
> European point of view). The Winter 2003-2004 story in 21st Century
> features an article "The Ice Age Is Coming". It shows that there are
> more interpretations of data than our European government would like us
> to believe.
>
> Article:
> http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/Ice_Age.html

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