Re: Mars like robots to SpaceStation to replenish ozone layer Re: Ice-dust + ozone replenishment as 2 solutions run in tandem to solve global warming Re: Antarctica-IceDust

From: N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\) (net_at_nospam.com)
Date: 03/25/05 

Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:30:34 -0700

Dear Archimedes Plutonium:

"Archimedes Plutonium" <a_plutonium@iw.net> wrote in message
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> "N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" wrote:
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>> Dear Archimedes Plutonium:
>>
>> "Archimedes Plutonium" <a_plutonium@iw.net> wrote in message
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>> > Then the other solution in tandem is the addition
>> > of vast amounts of ozone into the upper atmosphere.
>> > The ozone absorbs UV energy and re-emits into
>> > outer space so that the energy does not hit ground
>> > and heat up Earth.
>>
>> No. Ozone absorbs UV and dissociates in oxygen
>> and monatomic oxygen.
>
> Yes, thanks for the correction, for I was tongue-tied,
> mind-tied, plus typing-tied. I simply wanted to say
> that the Ice Dust reflects and the Ozone absorbs
> sunlight to cool Earth. Yes the Ozone cycle in the
> stratosphere for the temperature rise called the
> StratoPause. The ozone is crucial to this
> temperature layer at 50 km otherwise the heat
> would reach Earth.

I disagree. If anything, ozone as a three atom molecule would be
slightly more likey to be an "insulating blanket", to very
slightly retard radiation of heat into space.

> David, can you tell us how much of the Global
> Warming at present is due to the destruction of
> the Ozone layer to date. A rough percentage??

0%.

> It is the fact of 2 methods, one of reflection and
> one of absorption that is paramount to making a
> Air Conditioner. I would like both methods
> employed simultaneously.
>
> So I want an ozone enrichment and I want a Ice
> Dust shield reflector.

Neither are required. Both can be accomplished on *this* side of
space.

>> ...
>> > But can we produce ozone on the ground and
>> > package it and then cargo haul it to the space
>> > station to distribute?
>>
>> No. It is explosive (self-decomposes), and your
>> "cargo hauler" will either consume the oxygen
>> necessary for Earth to make her own, or seed
>> the atmosphere with moisture which will in itself
>> drastically curtail Earth's ability to make ozone.
>> One pathway to the production of ozone is
>> temporary acceptance of a monatomic oxygen
>> onto a nitrogen gas molecule, which with the
>> presence of visible light. Water makes this
>> N2O* into a stable compound. Additionally,
>> ozone, even at liquid ozone temperatures, has
>> a half-life of about a week.
>
> Yes, I think a nitrogen-oxygen compound is
> the better bet to cargo haul to begin to build
> back up the depleted ozone. And then to make
> more ozone then ever before to counterbalance
> rising GlobalWarming.

Just don't deliver more moisture to altitude than necessary.
Natural ozone production is hindered by such. And ozone will
have a very slight effect of increasing warming.

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>> > Not sure if those particles will interfer in a big
>> > way with the stations kinetics as it collides with ice
>> > dust particles.
>>
>> Yes it would. You can't just "release them", since
>> they stay in orbit with the ISS. You have to alter
>> their momentum, to let them fall into a "lower orbit".
>> Now you need some sort of thruster.
>
> Well we have to determine where to release the
> Ice-Dust. Once we do that we can then engineer
> a robot similar to the Mars robot of 2004 that was
> so successful to deliver the Ice-Dust in a
> prescribed orbit around Earth sing the Space
> Station as a home base for the robots.

Not necessary. Such can be (and is) accomplished this side of
space.

...
>> > But I still think we should replenish ozone
>>
>> We shouldn't. Nature can do it herself, if we
>> will leave her to it.
>
>You are off-base and out of tune with reality.

Rather than dignify your villification with a response, I suggest
you review your very lengthy list of *assumptions*. Most of them
are bogus.
- Ice Dust (R) is not necessary. Contrails can do this job much
cheaper.
- Ozone replenishment can be achieved by NOT delivering moisture
to high altitude, and not consuming oxygen at high altitude. It
takes days, if not weeks to get oxygen back to where commercial
traffic flys.
- Ozone is a greenhouse gas (as if that means a whole lot).

Goodbye.
<plonk>

David A. Smith

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