Re: Sunspots hit new highs
From: Pieter Litchfield (pvcl_at_*nospam*plitch.com)
Date: 10/30/04
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 12:28:52 GMT
I'll agree with the proposition that global warming might not be man's
fault. I too have watched the increased sunspot activity over the past
couple of years (thanks to Sam and this group) and have casually wondered
if, in fact, the amount of solar energy being thrown off could have an
impact on the earth's climate. I remember reading (but can't give a source)
that the surface of the sun has become measurably warmer over the last
several years. I would think there would be some kind of impact on us, but
that isn't a theory I see discussed in the mainstream media.
If the sun now has a dramaticly diffferent cooling trend and shortly
thereafter earth's wrming trend reverses, maybe we'll have some evidence.
Back in the 1960s, all "reputable scientists" thought the world would end in
a deep freeze. Times change, "scientific thought" changes. Of course at
one time all reputable navigators thought the world was flat, but now they
employ GPS.
As to the assertion that "trendy" science attracts grants - right on. I
come frome an area that has suffered dramatic and severe economic distress
as a result of a specific tree disease. While the cause is understood
(foreign pest), the treatment and prevention are not even a subject for
study. I asked several well known researchers at forestry colleges and the
reply was the same - all the grant monies are focused on global warming to
the exclusion of many other specific, immediate and measurable problems. The
forest scientists are all studying what global warming might do to forests,
not to what is killling them now.
I once took a college course that (in part) looked at the bizarre efforts
early astronomers went through to explain the observed behavior (like
retrograde motion) of the planets and stars. The challenge was to fit the
reality of the skies into a theologically or politically controlled belief
system. The earth had to be at the center of the universe, so make the data
fit. In similar fashion, there are those among us who find global warming a
wonder means of controlling the behavior of others for a variety of politcal
or moral purposes. To suggest that the root cause of global warming might
be beyond our control, in part or in its entirety, would lessen the ability
to control or influence humand behavior.
I for one would welcome any donations of links to sites that (either pro or
con) try to acssess the impact of the sun's impact on global warming.
"Thomas Lee Elifritz" <lifeform1@atlantic.net> wrote in message
news:29de1a66.0410292046.33962edf@posting.google.com...
> October 30, 2004
>
> jimp@specsol-spam-sux.com wrote in message :
>
>> In sci.physics Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> > Sunspots hit new highs (Oct 27)
>> > http://physicsweb.org/article/news/8/10/16
>> > The Sun is more active at present than it has been for over 8000
>> > years
>> > according to a new method for determining the level of sunspot
>> > activity
>> > in the past. Sami Solanki of the Max Planck Institute in
>> > Katlenburg-Lindau and colleagues in Finland, Germany and
>> > Switzerland
>> > have developed a technique that relates the number of sunspots to
>> > the
>> > concentration of carbon-14 in tree rings. However, the team insists
>> > that
>> > this high level of solar activity is unlikely to be the main cause
>> > of
>> > global warming (Nature 431 1084).
>>
>> Yeah, sure, it couldn't POSSIBLY be totally natural, uncontrollable, and
>> untaxable; that doesn't get research grants.
>
> Having trouble with the scientific evidence again, crackpot?
>
> Or is it just science that you don't understand?
>
> Or, are you just another bureaucrat?
>
> Thomas Lee Elifritz
> http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net
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