Re: More sentences
From: Eamer (eamer_at_digitalme.com)
Date: 07/02/04
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Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:28:16 +0900
Kevin Wayne Williams wrote:
> Bart Mathias wrote:
>
>>Kevin Wayne Williams wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I said I would periodically post sentences to double-check that my
>>>tutoring wasn't going completely astray. Here are some more samples for
>>>folks to attack:
>>>
>>>...
>>>Illustrating $B$7$+$M$k(B
>>>$B2<<j$J4k2h$G$b$H$i$;$l$?;D6H$O$7$+$M$k!#(B
>>
>>
>>I assume $B$H$i$;$l$?(B is a new way of putting $B$H$i$5$l$?(B?
>>
>>I'm still with Geoff on this. With that change, I can *translate* the
>>sentence ("I can't bring myself to do overtime that I was made, by means
>>of a clumsy plot, to take"), but.
>
>
> I confess, that one is just bad. Went over it in my lesson today, and my
> tutor was ashamed for letting it get through.
$B$"$H!"!V2<<j$J4k2h!W$O(Bbad planning$B$N0UL#$K$O$^$:$J$i$J$$$N$G$9$,!"$=$3$i(B
$BJU$O$A$c$s$H(Btutor$B$NJ}$+$iD{@5$O$"$j$^$7$?$+!)(B
>>>Illustrating $B$3$H$K$7$F$$$k(B
>>>$B2q<R$X9T$/;~!";d$OD.$NJbF;$rJb$-$^$;$s!#2q<R$H2H$N4V$K$"$k>>86$K$O!">.F;(B
>>>$B$,$"$j$^$9!#>>86$O4qNo$G$9$N$G!";d$O>.F;$rDL$F9T$/$3$H$K$7$F$$$k!#;~!9!"(B
>>>$B@58a$K!">>NS$K$"$k>.@n$K3]$1$k@P66$GJ[Ev$r?)$Y$^$9!#!!(B
>>
>>
>>I don't seem to understand this the way Eamer did (anyway, $BJbF;(B is
>>"pavement" in Angleterre), but perhaps I miss his point.
>
>
> I was hoping that someone else would. I've learned not to contradict
> NSOJ, but I really didn't see the correlation between his correction and
> my sentence. I was just waiting for someone to jump in and either concur
> or argue.
$BJ8L.$K$h$C$F$OI,$:$G$OL5$$$G$7$g$&$,!"$=$&$$$&%K%e%"%s%9$,6/$$$N$G!";H$o(B
$B$J$$J}$,K>$^$7$$$H;W$$$^$9!#(B
$BNc$($P!"(Bgoogle$B$G(B"$BJbF;$rJb$-$^$;$s(B"$B$O#2%R%C%H$G(B
1.$B6e=#<+A3JbF;$rJb$-$^$;$s$+!)(B
$B!J!V6e=#<+A3JbF;!W$H$$$&J*$,$"$k$i$7$$$G$9!#!K(B
2.*$B$D$-$"$C$F$i$l$^$;$s$N$GJbF;$rJb$-$^$;$s!"<VF;$rAv$j$L$1$^$9(B
$B!J<VF;$HBPHf!#!K(B
"$BJbF;$OJb$+$J$$(B"$B$O%R%C%H=g$G(B
1.$B!V3X@8$OJbF;$rJb$+$J$$$G$/$@$5!A$$!*!W(B. $B!V3X@8$O<VF;!A!*!W(B.
$B!J<VF;!#!K(B
2.$B5$$r$D$1$FJbF;$rJb$+$J$$$H!"$\$d$\$d$7$F$$$?$i(B
$B!J!V5$$r$D$1$k!W;v$K>GE@$,$"$k$N$G!"$3$3$G$O4X78$J$$!#!K(B
3.$B%&%V%I$OB<$H$$$C$F$b!"4Q8wCO$N$?$a$K7k9=!"<V$,B?$$!#$=$l$G!"JbF;$rJb$+(B
$B$J$$$H4m$J$$$N$@$,!"$3$l$,Jb$-$K$/$$!#(B
$B!J$D$^$j!"<V$K$R$+$l$J$$$?$a$K!"<VF;$G$O$J$/!"JbF;$rJb$/!#!K(B
4.$BN)GI$JJbF;$b$"$k$,!";R6!$H$$$&$N$O<V$NDL$i$J$$F;O)$G$OJbF;$rJb$+$J$$!#(B
$B!J;R6!$O!"<V$,$J$$$H<VF;$K=P$F$7$^$&$H$$$&<gD%!#!K(B
5.$B;R$I$b$,EP2<9;CfJbF;$rJb$+$J$$;~$,$"$k!#3X9;$dCO0h$GCm0U$r$7$F$$$-$?$$!#(B
$B!J>e$KF1$8!#!K(B
6.$B1&B&$NJbF;$rJb$+$J$$$H!$8e$m$+$iMh$k<V$K5$$E$+$J$$$3$H$,$"$k$N$G!$;v8N(B
$B$K$"$C$F$7$^$$$^$9!#(B
$B!J:8$O$J$/1&$G$"$k;v$K>GE@$,$"$k!#!K(B
[$BA4It$G(B33$B$"$k$,;D$j$O>JN,(B]
$B$b$A$m$s!"I,$:$=$&$@$H$$$C$F$$$k$o$1$G$O$"$j$^$;$s$,!">e$N$h$&$K!"<+A3$J(B
$BJ8L.$G$O!"$3$l$@$1!VJbF;$rJb$+$J$$!W$H$$$C$?$i!V<VF;!W$HBPHf$5$l$F$$$k3N(B
$BN($,9b$$$o$1$G$9!#(B
>>I'm pretty
>>sure you meant it the way I take it (maybe we're both making the same
>>American JSLer mistake?) that instead of walking (along the streets) on
>>the sidewalks, you take a path through a piny place (some kind of park).
>
> You got my intent. I really would like to know why it was clear to us,
> and not to others.
>
> I would also love to hear an opinion on Jeff's modification of
> $B>.@n$K3]$1$k@P66(B
> to
> $B>.$5$$@n$rEO$k@P66(B
>
> I'll buy that $B>.$5$$@n(B is more conversational than $B>.@n(B, but $BEO$k@P66(B
> sounds like the bridge is actively crossing the stream, as opposed to
> passively bridging it. Maybe $B3]$+$k(B?
$B!V3]$+$k!W$,0lHVNI$$$G$7$g$&!#%?%$$N%+%s%A%c%J%V%j(B(Kanchanaburi)$B$K$"$k(B
"The Bridge on the River Kwai"$B$O!V@o>l$K2M(B*$B$1(B*$B$k66!W$HLu$5$l$^$9$,!"$3$l(B
$B$O$^$?$A$g$C$H0c$&OC$G$9!#(B
>>
>>>...
>>>Illustrating $B$&$@(B
>>>$B6QEy$JJ}K!$r;H$($P!"F1MM$N@.2L$rF@$k$h$&$@!#(B
>>
>>
>>Interesting thing to illustrate. I don't believe there is such a thing
>>as $B$&$@(B, not counting proper nouns.
>
>
> Meant to be <plain form>$B$h$&$@(B. Editing error in the notes.
$B6QEy$H$$$&8@MU$OJQ$($?J}$,NI$$$G$7$g$&!#8eH>$b!JJ8L.<!Bh$G$9$,$3$l$@$1$G(B
$B$O!K@eB-$i$:$+$b$7$l$^$;$s!#A4BN$H$7$F2?$H$J!A$/!"(B
"A equalizing method enables to achieve the same performance."
$B$HF1$8$h$&$J46$8$KJ9$3$($^$9!#$A$g$C$HJQ$G$9$h$M!#(B
$BK\Ev$K%A%e!<%?!<$5$sBg>fIW$G$9$+!)309q8l3X=,$K$*$$$F$O!"C18l$N7A$G$O$J$/(B
$BJ8>O$rBt;34]0E5-$9$k$H$$$&%W%m%;%9$,Bg;v$G$"$k$H;W$$$^$9!#$@$+$i$7$C$+$j(B
$BD>$7$F$b$i$o$J$$$H!#(B
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