Re: Newbie looking for advice

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Date: 10/29/04 

Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:42:38 GMT

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:28:58 -0400, "Zach" <fdjfdj@gfjsfj.net>
wrote:
>Ahh, I managed to find some info. I actually have seen something from this
>author in the past... a package that Barron's put out for learning to
>"speak, read, and write Japanese". Luckily I got it from my library, because
>I was horrified to find that not only did it not even touch upon written
>Japanese: it used a system of Romaji that made my eyes cross and my nose
>crinkle up in disgust.
>
>Although this system is perhaps the best for learning to speak perfectly
>intoned, accented Japanese, I am looking for a more all-round approach that
>presents Japanese as a slightly more complete package - if possible - or at
>least without that intensely terrible phonetic language Jorden uses...

OK. You are biased. Then here is the academic standard for the
four-skills (read-write-speak-listen) approach...

Nakama 1: Japanese Communication, Culture, Context
Seiichi Makino, Yukiko Abe Hatasa, Kazumi Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin, 1998
  Textbook only (?)
ISBN: 0-6694-6188-1
  Textbook plus two Student Audio CDs, hardcover
ISBN: 0-6181-3105-1
  Textbook plus two Student Audio CDs and Lab Manual (but not the
Workbook)
ISBN: 0-6692-7583-2

Nakama 1: Japanese Communication, Culture, Context:
  Workbook and Laboratory Manual only
Seiichi Makino, Yukiko Abe Hatasa, Kazumi Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin, 1998
ISBN: 0-6692-7585-9

Nakama 1: Japanese Communication, Culture, Context:
  Two Student Audio CDs only
Seiichi Makino and Yukiko Abe Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin College
ISBN: 0-6181-1343-6

Nakama 1: Japanese Communication, Culture, Context:
  Seven Audio Program CDs only
Seiichi Makino and Yukiko Abe Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin College, January 1998
ISBN: 0-6181-1344-4

Nakama 2: Japanese Communication, Culture and Context
  Textbook only
Seiichi Makino, Yukiko Abe Hatasa, Kazumi Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin, 2000
ISBN: 0-6692-8504-8
  Textbook plus two Student Audio CDs, hardcover
ISBN: 0-6180-1814-X

Nakama 2: Japanese Communication, Culture and Context:
  Workbook and Laboratory Manual only
Seiichi Makino, Yukiko Abe Hatasa, Kazumi Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin, 2000
ISBN: 0-6692-8507-2

Nakama 2: Japanese Communication, Culture, Context:
  Two Student Audio CDs only
Seiichi Makino and Yukiko Abe Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin College
ISBN: 0-6180-1815-8

Nakama 2: Japanese Communication, Culture and Context:
  Audio Program CDs only, two parts (eleven CDs total)
Seiichi Makino and Yukiko Abe Hatasa
Houghton Mifflin College, August 1999
Nakama 2, part I, six CDs
  ISBN: 0-6180-1816-6
Nakama 2, part II, five CDs
  ISBN: 0-6180-2783-1

My set cost about $350. I got through it in 10 months. I did
Pimsleur in my car during that year. Then I tried Jorden. Most of
her grammar explanations are superb and she emphasizes thinking in
the language. Not that Nakama does not. Makino was my teacher in
university during the last Ice Age and I guinea-pigged Nakama. But
I think Jorden gives him a great run for the money.

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