Re: Term for kana subtext on kanji?

jim_breen_at_hotmail.com
Date: 11/01/04 

Date: 1 Nov 2004 09:58:58 GMT

dareka <dareka@inter7ns.jp> dixit:
>jim_breen@hotmail.com wrote:
>> dareka <dareka@inter7ns.jp> dixit:
>>>.... Talking about $B=D=q$-(B, if HTTP was
>>>developed by the Japanese I think perhaps people would be able
>>>to create and see easily $B=D=q$-(B web pages by now.
>>
>> Er, no. HTTP has nothing to do with $B=D=q$-(B or anything alse related
>> to how text is rendered. I think you mean HTML.

>Now I remember TP in HTTP stands for Transfer Protocol. Yes,
>it is communication protocol not supposed to be related to
>text format things. But somehow I have a feeling it doesn't
>matter much that whether HTTP and HTML are distinguished as
>different independent parts or not....just talking to self.

What I think is that when debating it's important that you don't
give the impression that you don't know what you're talking about.

>> Here too I totally disagree. One of the reasons the Internet has
>> succeeded has been that it is built on "one protocol, format,
>> code....", unlike the old OSI approach which was stuffed by having
>> two incompatible networking protocols.

>You seem to not get my point. Even Internet uses other
>protocols: TCP or UDP/IP

Er, neither TCP nor UDP is a "networking protocol". Both run
*over* IP.

>doesn't means much more than common
>protocol among end applications of one or two communication
>protocol layers. You suggest all communication protocols are
>replaced by IP?

I'm not suggesting anything. I am asserting emphatically that the
Internet has one network layer protocol: IP.

>I agree that the hegemony of IP helped the
>success of Internet though I'm not sure it's actually right.

Well "hegemony" is an interesting term for a crucial part of the
Internet's design.

>Maybe just simply because the result of avoiding proprietary
>things and what people wanted was served.

No. Point missed.

>> No words at all in an IP address. It's a 32-bit number.

>If I dare say it's not number either.

Sigh. If you don't actually know this stuff, don't try and
wallow around in a debate about it.

>> And most
>> people don't remember them at all; in fact they wouldn't know their
>> IP address if it leapt out of their PC and bit them on the arse.

>I do. My router modem is 1 and my other computers is 100 or
>something like that and I don't remember their hostnames well.

Groan.... 

-- 
Jim Breen        http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/
Computer Science & Software Engineering,
Monash University, VIC 3800, Australia 
$B%8%`!&%V%j!<%s(B@$B%b%J%7%eBg3X(B

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