Re: Japanese text in domain names
From: Don Kirkman (spambuster_at_covad.net)
Date: 11/12/04
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:58:25 -0800
It seems to me I heard somewhere that ????????? wrote in article
<RhXkd.24527$KJ6.14089@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>Don Kirkman wrote:
>>>you need version 7.11 or higher. (Vintage May 19, 2003 or so)
>>>So you are out of date by and year and a half or so. I guess
>>>opera hasnt had the feature for as long as other browsers just
>>>yet.
>> The last time I reviewed my math 7.6 was higher/bigger/later than 7.11.
>> Maybe it's different in your part of the world.
>Talk the tho opera people. 7.6 is a really old version by their system.
Apparently not; see below. 7.0 was the only one they released that
didn't follow the decimal with two digits.
>If you are in some sort of beta, it must be for 7.60
>And if so, and IDN's dont work you may as well report the bug. (thats
>what betas are for and all)
It's not a bug if it involves non-standard IDN stuff. Opera tries much
harder than MS to only accommodate standards.
Opera 7.60 is less than a month old, is not in general release, and is
being discussed only in Opera's beta newsgroup. Is all your information
this accurate?
For future reference, here's the revision history for Opera 7.x; you'll
notice there's no 7.6, so a good working hypothesis would have been that
I abbreviated 7.60 to 7.6.
Opera 7.54
Opera 7.53
Opera 7.52
Opera 7.51
Opera 7.50
Opera 7.50 beta 1
Opera 7.23
Opera 7.22
Opera 7.21
Opera 7.20
Opera 7.20 beta 7
Opera 7.11
Opera 7.10
Opera 7.03
Opera 7.02
Opera 7.01
Opera 7.0
Opera 7.0 Beta 2
Opera 7.0 Beta 1 v. 2
Opera 7.0 Beta 1
>> I have a deep and abiding lack of interest in the whole topic. Your
>> whole agenda seems driven by theoreticals and not by how live users work
>> or how their preferences can be accommodated. The whole thing of
>> needing plug-ins to browse is a case in point.
>The whole point is in accomodating users. Just because things are
>broken now doesnt mean it has to be that way forever. If you think
>having Japanese (and other languages) work with various aspects
>of technology is boring it is strange that you are here in a place
>called "sci.lang.japan", imo.
ISTM your point is about accommodating *potential* or *future* users,
not the millions that are out there right now.
>Does everyone here think IDN's are just a dumb idea? Its not hard
>to get that impression.
It's probably an accurate impression.
>> Opera seems to be widely ignored by the theorists though it's gaining
>> acceptance among savvy users.
>Well it does have quite a few vociferous proponents, but I cant imagine
>a long future selling something that everyone else is giving for free.
And yet they seem to be growing. Their market decisions apparently
aren't driven by assumptions like yours. FWIW, Agent also seems to
compete rather well against free Outlook [Express] among a certain
category of users.
-- Don Old age is when you start saying "I wish I knew now what I knew then."
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