Re: Looking for VI-VT word pair list, and VI-VT Rules

From: muchan (usenet_at_usenet.usenet)
Date: 12/21/04 

Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:53:24 +0100

Bart Mathias wrote:
> muchan wrote:
>
>>[...]
>>$B$N$\$;$k(B is used in normal conversation, when (after long bath, or "because
>>of love") the blood goes too much to the head. But I believe it is not vt.
>> $BF,$K7l$,>e$C$?>uBV$K$J$k!!!]!d!!$N$\$;$k(B
>
>
> It's listed as vi in dictionaries in that sense. From the looks of it,
> though, it must have sprung from a vt.
>
> Another example of a vi ~ vt pairing (this one is easy to trace) that
> has gone astray is $BJk$l$k(B ~ $BJk$i$9(B. I have seen the latter listed as
> vt, presumably on the grounds of such things as $BHUG/$r3Z$KJk$i$9(B, but
> that seems analogous to $BF;$r9T$/(B, etc. Cf. *$B2?$rJk$i$7$?$N$+(B. (The
> response $BHUG/$rJk$i$7$?(B is equally silly, except perhaps in a language
> class.)
>
> Bart

The pair of $BJk$l$k(B & $BJk$i$9(B must be like this:

  $BF|$,Jk$l$k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!J(Bthe Sun sets = the day ends$B!K(B
  $B0lF|$,Jk$l$k!!(B $B!!!!!!!!!!(B(the day ends)
  $B0lF|(B,$B0lF|$rJk$i$9!!!!!!!!(B(passes/lives one day after day)
  $BF|!9$rJk$i$9!!!!!!(B $B!!!!!!(B(passes/lives one day after day)
  $BG/7n!??M@8!?HUG/$rJk$i$9(B (lives certain period of time)

The implicite "object" of $BJk$i$9(B is $BF|!9(B/$BKhF|!"(Betc.,
the repeating of the sunset after sunset.
$BHUG/$rJk$i$9(B is actually short for $BHUG/(B($B$NF|!9(B)$B$rJk$i$9!#(B

muchan

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