Re: Three "Genki"-questions

From: Bart Mathias (mathias_at_hawaii.edu)
Date: 03/29/05 

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:24:01 GMT

Konrad Den Ende wrote:
> Marc Adler wrote:
>
>>Danny Wildeek idatzi du 3/27/2005 3:03 AM:
>>
>>[...]
>>[...] (you know about how 言う and 言った are
>>pronounced ゆう and ゆった, right?), 書いておく ＝かいとく, etc.
>
>
> If i know that 言う can be pronounced ゆう? Well, now i do.
> Thanks!

For 言う, it's not really "can be." That's just the way to say it.
As to 言った, ゆった is a rare pronunciation in my experience, which I
have always recognized as an unintended grammaticalization of the actual
pronunciation of 言う.

Those things happen. I've heard people slip and say きない for 来ない.

> I understand that when you mention the pronounciation
> of 書いておく to be かいとく you also imply that (almost?) all verbs
> go that way. Is that correct understood?

Yes. It's a cousin to 書いている coming out かいてる. All verbs go
that way, assuming the ている form is possible for them in the first place.

[...]
> Perhaps i was unclear [...]. The vocabulary-part in my
> book tells me that のんびり means "in a leisurely way" and i am
> simply unsure how to use that information since "...ely way" is
> not correct english expression as far as my knowledge goes.

"Leisurely" is only used as an adjective in English. To make it into an
adverb (I don't recommend trying this at home), you'd have to change the
"y" to "ily" or something. "He was walking along leisurelily." People
might say that by mistake, but hmmm.... nine Google hits.

Bart