Re: Newbie stuff: Kanji. The Heisig-way or the Highway?
- From: Soren Svendsen <immacolata2@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:32:53 +0200
Ben Finney wrote:
> Soren Svendsen <immacolata2@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>I just began on Heisigs unorthodox method of learning kanji. To my
>>delight I make progress way faster than I had expected.
>
>
> To hopefully forestall too much repeat of old arguments: Note that
> Soren almost certainly means Heisig's "Remembering the Kanji, volume
> I" which deals *only* with linking the underlying meaning of a kanji
> with its written form. No other aspect of kanji or language is covered
> in that volume. I'll assume that's the volume we're talking about.
>
Exactly. I already do know some kanji and their readings from other
practicing I've done. But I realize that Heisigs method is purely for
the memorization of kanji for purpose of writing them again and their
keyword meaning. Later I will tie them up to on and kun reading, as he
suggest.
> Heisig's keywords and stories leave something to be desired; many of
> them are of dubious value. What many seem to miss is that in the
> introduction to the book, Heisig encourages the reader to invent their
> own stories, that have much more imaginative impact for the individual
> reader. On the other hand, Heisig cautions strongly against changing
> the keywords; since he has gone to pains to make each keyword unique
> among the kanji, this would be good advice, if a better source of
> keywords were not available.
I am already making better stories for situations that I find his are
bad. But I do not change the keyword.
> To each card, I added a single most-frequent 音 and 訓 reading, for
> when I want to turn around and systematically learn the readings as a
> separate exercise. This was simply to save the effort of sorting
> through the cards later to add that information; I'm not using it in
> conjunction with this method.
Now I use my two boxes of kanji flash cards for that so I got the
readings already. I've written the keywords on top of each card. Of
course I have to make my own for the many cards that are joyou level 7
and higher.
> Thus, it's a good method because it stops you wasting time repeatedly
> trying to get the kanji into your brain in the first place and keeping
> them there. When the method works, you learn each new kanji once only,
> which is much more efficient. Everything else is then working with
> kanji you already know and have strong, useful associations for.
Yes, I found out about that when I rehearsed grammar. Man kanji just
doesn't make sense, so its cramming them and hoping they stick. I found
Heisigs method interesting because he claims that you WILL have an
easier time learning new words WHEN you have finished cramming kanji his
way. The smart way. Not EASY, just smarter.
>
> My teacher has been very happy that I'm studying kanji by myself; she
> knows of no better way to teach them other than drilling and rote
> memorisation, which both she and the student find dull and
> frustrating.
>
> She's been pleasantly surprised at my growing knowledge of kanji
> meanings (currently at 800 kanji and slowly rising), and finds it
> very easy to teach me new words (and new usages of existing words)
> since I now frequently know the meaning of the kanji involved before
> seeing the word.
>
Thanks a lot, I will continue with this system then, you have convinved
me to try and do my best to remember how to draw as many kanji as I can
from my imaginative memory.
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