Re: "Azami no Uta" , a Japanese oldie

B. Ito wrote:
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> "Bart Mathias" <mathias@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote [...]
>> B. Ito wrote:
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>>> "Azami no Uta" is one of the very well-known Japanese Kayoukyoku
>>> Oldies. [...]
>>
>> Oh yeah? Then how come I never heard it before?
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> I thought you must have heard it.
> This was a hit song in 1945.

The only hit songs I remember from that era are "Sioux City Sue," "Open
the Door, Richard," "Cement Mixer, Putty-putty," and "Ragg Mopp." The
only Japanese word I knew at the time, probably, was "Banzai!"

I guess I've over-impressed some people with my bragging about being old.

>>> [...]

>>> (2)
>>> 高嶺の百合の　それよりも Takane no yuri no sore yori mo
>>> 秘めたる夢を　ひとすじに Himetaru yume wo hitosuji ni
>>> [...]
>> What do you take the それ of 高嶺の百合のそれ to be? I'm stumped. Does
>> the original say それよりも秘めたる or それよりもひとすじに... (and what
>> is the missing verb here?)
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> I think the following are similar two lines using the same それよりも:
>
> 貴方の車の　それよりも
> 足の速い車を　買いました。

My brain started turning to mush even before I became "old," and my
difficulty here may relate to that (or to the fact that my only contact
with Japanese any more is this NG, "Yoshitune" [forgot the kanji!] and
おみやさん); that doesn't seem to clarify anything for me. 貴方の車の　
何が足が速いのか見当がつきません。

>>[...]
>> Let's deep-six that "in." "... burning / such a charming crimson."
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> ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーー
> You mean, "six-mora rhythm"deleting "in" by the "deep-six."

「埋める」ってこと。墓が六尺深いのがアメリカなどではし来たりです。

>>> [...]
>>> いとしき花よ　汝はあざみ [Itoshiki] hana yo na(nji) wa azami
>>> こころの花よ　汝はあざみ Kokoro no hana yo na(nji) wa azami
>>
>> Presumably it is sung as "na" and you provide the "(nji)" for meaning?
>> It must sound, to someone not reading the lyrics, like "thy name is
>> 'thistle.'")

> [...]
> You mean "thy name is......" or "thou art ........." better ?

いいえ。 ただ、わたしなら、「いとしきはなよ　なはあざみ」というのを「名
はあざみ」と聞ちゃうっていみ。

>>> [...]
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> Isn't "a dearest flower"("a" plus any superlaive degree) "a very dear
> flower" ?
>
> A loveliest flower > the loveliest flower, in one sense ?

In my variety of English, at least, "no" to both questions. Perhaps
different in Elizabethan, Australian, or some kind.

>> [...]

Bart
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