Re: How to express "must be taught"?

Konrad Viltersten wrote:
> muchan wrote:
>
>>Paul Blay wrote:
>>
>>But spam detection is "finding rules" isn't it?
>>I think it's a kind of "学びing".
>>"Not knowing what to do but repeat it until
>>perfect" things...
>

<correction>
Here I meant:
Not "knowing what to do but repeat it until perfect" things...
</correction>

>
> I see the difference and i'm very thankful for the
> 学ぶ　→　習う　connection.
>
> Just to be correct on the technical side - how would
> you like to regard a case when a set of rules is given
> (and not to be changed) but one learns the
> importance, the _weight_ of the different rules as one
> goes. Would you regard that as _new_ learning (学ぶ)
> or polishing (習う)?
>

I wantedto use the word "weight" in previous message but instead used
parameter. In this case it's
"finding the appropreate weight" for each rules, to finally judge
the spams correctly, and as for "finding" or "discovering" something goes,
IMHO it's process of 学ぶ.
習う is, by repetition, solidifying what one have already learned.

There can be "aha!" or "eureka!" moment in the process of repetition,
then we say (while repeating as daily routine), 今日は新しいことを学んだ。
You see the point, I think.

> I'm guessing it's a border area and one will be
> corrected in any case, depending on the audience... :)
>

I can't think of a machine or computer doing 習う.
Neural network is an exception, because it's is really imitate
the neural activity of people while 習うing...


muchan
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