Re: question about neba/nakereba




"Paul Blay" <ask_me_or_get_spam_trapped@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Paul Blay <ask_me_or_get_spam_trapped@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> dixit:
On the ねば without ならない subject I found these two.

もうほんのちょっと気をつけねば。
You should be a thought more careful.

君に行ってもらわねば承知しない。
I'm adamant that you should go.

Both of these seem to be cases of omitted ならないs.

Certainly the first is but I don't see how the second can
be viewed that way.

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Ok. May I consider the matter as follows?

もうほんのちょっと気をつけねば。
It's very clear that one of the following phrases is abbreviated.
(、、、、、ねば (.ねばならない、なりません、だめよ、承知しないよ、等))

君に行ってもらわねば(ならないので、君が行かないなんて(そんな事は))承知しない。
To make the sentence have a sense, you have to put so many
words and phrases. Therefore this is not a matter of abbreviation.

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B.Ito


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