Re: Kanji, Katakana, and Hiragana are different LANGUAGES.

Bart Mathias wrote:
Dan Rempel wrote:
Dan Rempel wrote:
[...]
Except they're not phonetic; they're moraic/syllabic. This isn't being
pedantic: if they were phonetic they'd represent phonemes, which they
clearly don't.


Whoops: 'phones', not 'phonemes'. Pardonez-moi, eh.

I am *so* glad you did that! :-)

Me too; my credibility's low enough around here already :]

Dan

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