Re: Kanji, Katakana, and Hiragana are different LANGUAGES.

It seems to me I heard somewhere that x01001x wrote in article
<1187024933.912946.278220@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Are you aware that until fairly recently educated Japanese studied the
Chinese classics, including writing; perhaps they still do.

That's irrevelent to my original argument.
They are studying/reading Chinese works. I was talking about kanji
specifically.
Kanji are Chinese characters with Onyomi and Kunyomi used by the
Japanese.

No, AFAIK the Chinese use of the characters is called hanzi and the
Japanese use is called kanji; you see, it depends on the language of the
users.

For the most part, kanji was introduced to Japan via the Koreans.
More on this please?
I thought you had studied these languages intensively?

Yeah that's right chief but also my lessons of cultural anthropology
taught me more about how
the Koreans want to kill Japanese. Still working on the hangul...

Most excellent use of non sequitur in a sci.lang.* newsgroup. Bravo

You may want to poke around among the theories and evidences that the
Japanese may in fact have at one time been Koreans; the mutual antipathy
is relatively recent, in the context of history.

Also, I have heard much more about Japanese people receiving their
entire damn genetic structure from the Koreans,
not even going to the language portion.

Not quite so successful, since you have made the language portion the
meat of your argument.

That's what you were told earlier in this thread: they are different
simplifications of the same (or similar) earlier kanji being used as
phonetic symbols; they were *developed* to represent the same phonetics.

Right, although I wasn't exactly "told" this. I had argued long ago on
USENET
that hiragana and katakana were phonetic

If you'd stopped there even I would have agreed with you.

language.
People just don't want to agree with me that this is true.

Maybe this is one of those odd situations where the majority IS right?

That's mostly because you don't know the history of Japanese writing
systems.

Let me grab my everlast because that was below the...

Fair blow. You're the one that has been parading your solid knowledge
of the Japanese writing systems.

"Nikutai" is body or physical being, most likely. It depends on which
kanji it is written with.

Without kanji I can't be sure, but depending on context "kankei" might
be connection, relationship.

Well I guess you have decided to just steamroll over MY explanation
given earlier.
I had described the threading kanji (like something to do with
sewing.)
Threading through meat...

Well, let me try to disabuse you of some of your vast knowledge:

You wrote 肉体関係　[nikutaikankei]

肉 　meat [primarily foodstuff], flesh [including metaphorically]
体 　body, physical entity
関　 barrier
係 to connect, connection

and the compound word is parsed

肉体　physical
関係 relation[s/ship]

so there is no way you can connect the thread of kei with the flesh of
niku and throw away the two middle terms.

You seem to be very literalistic in interpreting the kanji, and of
course there are times when a cigar is only a cigar, but in an old
developed language the odds are against it being the best way to get the
meaning.
--
Don Kirkman
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