Re: Culture clash

Phil Yff <phil.yff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

However, I draw different conclusions from your anecdotal
information. You refer to "NSoE that I speak with who have learned
Japanese *outside* Japan to the point of conversational fluency".
You imply, though, that your anecdotal Japanese learners of English
are striving for more than mere "conversational fluency."

No, such was never my intended implication. The
NSoJ-learners-of-English are having trouble attaining the
(subjectively-judged) same level of conversational fluency as the
NSoE-lerners-of-Japanese attain. The former group have chronic trouble
with the new language, the latter praise its ease of assimilation.

It's hard to establish a level playing field.

Indeed. I would love to see unbiased studies, but I admit to not
knowing what methodology I would accept as unbiased.

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