Re: Query: Tense of the hortative.



mirror wrote:
Hello,

Am I correct in thinking that "~mashou" and "~deshou" do not have a
tense, that is that they are grammatically non-finite?

Is this query based on the Wikipedia offering?

"In linguistics, a non-finite verb (or a verbal) is a verb form that is
not limited by a subject; and more generally, it is not fully inflected
by categories that are marked inflectionally in language, such as tense,
aspect, mood, number, gender, and person. As a result, a non-finite verb
cannot generally serve as the main verb in an independent clause;
rather, it heads a non-finite clause" would seem to say "no."

Some would claim that they *are* in part mood (and partly register)
inflections. Hardly verbs to start with.

I'm not sure the concept is all that useful in Japanese, but perhaps a
thorough reading of
http://www.babylon.com/definition/non-finite_verb/Japanese
could suggest otherwise.

Bart
.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: [en] Englisch hat kein Futur
    ... | The English verb has only two tenses proper, ... Tense", Ninth Impression, London, George Allen & Unwin, 1963 ... | being confined to the assertion of actions or states of being ...
    (de.etc.sprache.misc)
  • Re: ``wait and see
    ... The problem is you need to use correct tense with both verbs. ... The Turkish example is no different than any simple verb. ... it is distributive (unlike English), so is when you add a personal ending. ... > condition" that has been observed for the QSV construction and for the ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Traveling...
    ... Supposed -- past tense verb. ... I used to watch it. ... Used to is an adverb describing watch? ...
    (rec.games.computer.ultima.dragons)
  • Re: Ireland Acts And Yurp Twitters.
    ... :>Except that 'will' isn't classified as a verb in the dictionary. ... :>But you are not currently in flight, so how can that be present tense? ... The vulture eats carrion. ... illustrate how all verbs work in English. ...
    (soc.culture.scottish)
  • Re: Learning a language
    ... > How is Esperanto's verb tense system simpler than that of Malay? ... confusing two kinds of complexity: ... grammar of the language. ...
    (sci.lang)