Re: Writing to the newsgroup?



Phil wrote:

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:21:27 -0700, Arri London wrote:

Phil wrote:

On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 09:13:18 -0700, Arri London wrote:

In Japanese that is. How do people write into the group? Sometimes I see
odd characters that aren't Japanese so assuming I don't have quite the
proper fonts.

However I did find my wp software (Unitype Global writer) that
supposedly lets me write in hiragana and kanji (get to pick and choose
after entering the words in romaji). However cut-and-paste didn't work.
Do I need something different?

Below, is the same passage, I included before - the opening preamble to
"Jigoku Shoujo - Hutakomori." This time, though, it's encoded in UTF-8.
Your news reader should be able to read it whether it is set to iso-2022-jp
or UTF-8. If it doesn't, then we can figure out what the problem is.

In order to use character sets from more than on language in a post or
e-mail, you should be able to set the encoding and use the encoding you
set. I'm not familiear with Unitype Global writer, but it sounds to me
like it should support unicode encoding. If you know how to look at a
message header or e-mail header, you can see what encoding you're using.
For example, I can see that your post is encoded with iso-2022-jp by
looking at the header of your post. This means your word processor
supports iso-2022-jp in addition to unicode encoding.

Cutting and pasting often works but sometimes it does not. The most common
problem is when the software from which you are cutting (in this case the
wp) uses a different encoding scheme from the software in which you are
pasting (in this case the newsreader). The key to resolving conflicts is
knowing how to find out what encoding schemes the source and target
software are using and how to change them. As I said, I'm not familiar
with Unitype Globa writer so I don't know how to set the encoding.
However, if you use its help feature to inquire about 'character encoding',
'character sets', 'unicode', or the like, you should be able to find out
fairly easily.

Here's the UTF-8 test.

郢ァテ」郢ァ蟲ィ鬭顔ケァテ」郢ァ蟲ィ鬭顔クコ繧」隶後Η邵コ繝ァ陟悶い
陷ゥテ」郢ァ蠕鯉シ廡陞ウ螢ケ鬭∫クイティ髢ュツ・繧ュ邵コテゥ鬩閉梼

隲槫シア竏ゥ隲槫シア竏ェ郢ァ蠕個 邸恷坤喝癲≈坤喝皀鳫跑紊ㇰ札♀生簍æ
陷キ蛹サ笳矩ォ å碆坤喝礇￥î 讙弱い
隴弱ｅツョ鬭ョ闔 縲∫ケァ荳奇ス矩ォ」テ」郢ァ蛹サ鬭願ュ夲ス・邵コ貅假ス顔クコ繝イ
邵コ繧ŭ˞邵コ貅伉ョ鬭ョ隲、繧」邵コ繧ス隴弱お郢ァ蟲ィ䰗 邵コ繧サ邵コ


Yurari yurari to gou no kage
Aware na sadame mayoi michi
Nikumi nikumare hibiwareta
Awasekagami no hutakomori
Toki no majiwaru yami yori kitarite
Anata no urami harashimasu

The shadow of karma swings to and fro.
Wretched fate leads one astray.
Hating, being hated - a captive duo - receding
Reflections in a pair of cracked facing mirrors.
Coming forth from the intersection of time intertwined with darkness,
You shall find relief from your torment.

--
Phil

TY the UTF-8 test was a bust. Lots of 'missing' characters.

Not using a stand-alone wp as such when writing to the group; the
message window includes the 'reply' option and just needs entering
before clicking the 'send' button.

Thanks for your time. Will get this worked out eventually! Might need to
reload Global IME; icon shows up but can't switch it on...may not have
installed something important.

As a test, copy and paste the Japanese from my UTF-8 post into your word
processor. Since it's called Unitype Global writer, my assumption is that
it should be able to read UTF-8.

The UTF-8 Japanese was transformed in the reply. It cannot be restored by
changing the character encoding. This is the header info in your reply:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This is the header info in my post:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

--
Phil

TY I'm not even getting that type of header at all. Have no info on what
your character set is. Will try the cut-and-paste.
.