Re: Keisaku/kyousaku

Sean wrote:
Marc Adler wrote:
On Mar 20, 2:39 pm, Sean <s...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

that you are experiencing in the moment, but not to fix on them or get
Well, we both mean the same thing here, so I won't argue the point,
but "fixing on things" is what I meant by being "attentive" -
following a train of thought intently (= 雑念). That's the no-no. It's
when you're not paying attention to anything (= 無) that you are able
to pay attention to everything (= 悟り).

Or so the theory goes, but at some point you're supposed to kill the
Buddha, or something, right? By the way, I'm assuming you count your
breaths. Do you just count endlessly or return to 1 every time you
reach 10?

If you count endlessly it defeats the purpose. It means you're not
paying attention. I started with counting each inhalation and
exhalation. Then I was told to just count the out-breaths. Later, it was
just the in-breaths. Recently I'm to try just focusing on the breath
without counting, but if I find myself drifting, to return to counting
to get back to now.


What you describe sounds like a hell of a way to introduce someone to
Zen practice. No wonder you only went the once! If folks were getting
Actually, I only went once, but I've been sitting most weekdays ever
since. I must not have described it very well. They just wanted to let
me know my back wasn't straight.

Oh, it wasn't a formal three thunderous whacks on each trapezoid? With a
polite bow before and after?

(Paul's right, though. Getting hit with a stick on the shoulders by a
gray-haired woman in a room with around 40 other people was definitely
not my ideal combination of "woman" + "stick" + "beating" + "candle-
wax".)

while you can get it if the jikijitsu determines that you're adrift.
The who?

I understand they're doing a reunion thing with Moon's son on kit, just
like Zep did with Bonzo's boy.

Still as sharp as ever, Sean.

Oh, you mean who is the jikijitsu? Maybe that needs to be an entry too.
It's like the foreman of the sangha. He takes care of general control
and running of things, leaving the monk to concentrate on monking.

Dan

--
Very few people do anything creative after the age of thirty-five. The
reason is that very few people do anything creative before the age of
thirty-five.
-- Joel Hildebrand
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