Re: A little Japanese test


"Bart Mathias" <mathias@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:VZadnf4EY4tNDkPVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
B. Ito wrote:

"ax" <anton.xie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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My gf gave me a 膝が笑う。　That's another nuance?

ax
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That's another good example.

That'll be the enswer, 1-c. Very good.

The English translations must be,
"My leg goes to sleep."

膝が笑っちゃった。
My leg has gone to sleep.

How about, "My leg is now asleep." ?
"My leg has gone asleep."

Are these good too?
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The sort of question that might even give a native speaker pause.

The last one is definitely out for me *at the moment*. I don't think anything "goes asleep" (maybe "He goes to school asleep" but there has to be a destination).
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I see. The verb 'go' often needs 'to' (whether it may be a preposition or
an infinitive 'to'.


"My leg is now asleep" bothers me slightly. I don't like the "now." But pull the "now," and then I don't like the "is." "My leg's asleep" seems OK to me. Similarly, I'm uncomfortable with the "ha-" in "My leg has gone to sleep." I'd replace it with "'."

Bart
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This one also I've learned before something like this: that natives prefer
the abbreviated form like you say, "My leg's gone to sleep." as it seems
that grammatically 'be-verb' instead of 'have-verb' used to be or preferably
applied to past perfect setences.

This will let arise further question in case of a pluaral case when two legs
have or are gone to sleep.

Maybe, "My legs're gone to sleep."
And "My legs are gone to sleep." are equally acceptable in this case?

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B. Ito

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