Re: Did the Trojan war really happen the way Homer said it did?
From: Franz Gnaedinger (frgn_at_bluemail.ch)
Date: 07/14/04
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Date: 13 Jul 2004 23:52:18 -0700
frgn@bluemail.ch (Franz Gnaedinger) wrote in message news:<2bf25455.0407122311.216935e9@posting.google.com>...
The central field on the Tiryns side of the Phaistos Disk
rosette male head ear of grain
to be read as S EY R (Zeus) according to Derk Ohlenroth,
may have been programmatic.
The rosette, we have seen, alludes to the still extant rosette
of supporting stones around the former Circular Building on
the hill of Tiryns; forms a windrose marking N NE E SE S SW W NW;
represents a calendar of 8 months of 5 weeks or 45 days, to which
have been added 5 or occasionally 6 days; can be interpreted as
a flower, telling of a flourishing civilization; and may moreover
be understood as the sun, shining on the male head or king and
the ear of grain in the central field.
According to Derk Ohlenroth, the phonetic value of the rosette
is a sigma (s) or perhaps an emphatic sigma (ss). The sigma
may perhaps have come from selas = shine, lustre, light, ray,
spark, a word present in selaenae = moon, moonshine, and from
steropae = flash, shine, lustre. Sterop-aegereta was an epithet
of Zeus: flash hurling Zeus. As a flower, the rosette of the
phonetic value 's' may refer to sporos = sowing, seed, crop;
sperm, birth, descent, descendants; fruit, yield. Another
meaningful s-word may be stilbo = I shine, and stilpnos =
shining, that go along with the begin of the Tiryns spiral:
SEYR KI PHAINNOS ... = Zeus is the shining one ...
The peculiar name Seyr for Zeus may have a correspondence
in the Hittite pantheon of Thousand (mostly borrowed) Deities.
Teshub, the supreme god of Hattusas, the God of the Celestial
Weather and Time (my translation from French "Dieu du Temps
Celeste") carried a bundle of three flashes in his left hand,
reminding of the flash hurling Zeus, and was accompanied by
a pair of sacred bulls, namely Serri, the bull of daytime,
and Hurri, the bull of nighttime. The name Serri or Serry,
bull of daytime, comes close to Seyr, Helladic name of Zeus
according to Derk Ohlenroth's decipherment of the Phaistos Disk.
You certainly know that Zeus abducted Europe from Asia Minor to
Crete in the guise of a bull.
Next time: the male head (king) and his tattoo
Regards Franz Gnaedinger
> My commented edition of Homer's Odyssey mentions a week of 9 days
> (relying on / referring to VII 253, IX 82, X 28, XII 447, XIV 314).
>
> If a Mycenaean week really consisted of 9 days, a year would have
> had 40 weeks or 360 days, plus 5 and occasionally 6 additional days,
> yielding a total of 365 and sometimes 366 days.
>
> 7 lunations (e.g. from one to the next full moon) dure 206.775...
> or practically 207 days. 207 days are 23 weeks of 9 days.
>
> As an experiment I tried to construct a calendar of the Falera /
> Bush Barrow type. The only reasonable solution I found consists
> in a double concentric circle, the outer circle representing
> 16 weeks, the inner circle representing 8 weeks, a year being
> composed of 16 + 8 + 16 = 40 weeks, plus of 5 or 6 more days
> indicated by a small circular sign (or an empty frame as in
> the case of the Falera bronze disk) in the nadir of the outer
> circle of 16 weeks:
>
> http://www.seshat.ch/home/falerag1.GIF
> http://www.seshat.ch/home/falerag2.GIF
>
> Spring and fall are short seasons of passage in Greece, and so
> may have dured one month each, while winter and summer would have
> lasted 3 months each. The resulting figure of summer, yellow in
> my graphic, consists of the inner circle plus the lower quadrants
> of the outer circle, and may remind of a goddess figurine with
> raised arms. However, I did nowhere find a calendar figure of
> that kind anywhere in my books at home, and so I have to place
> a question mark behind my calendar reconstruction or rather play.
>
> But while I looked out for possible Mycenaean calendar figures
> I came across the Phaistos Disk and the rosette in the center
> of the Tiryns spiral. According to Derk Ohlenroth, the begin of
> that spiral can be read as follows:
>
> S EY R K I PH A AI N N O S S EY R AI Y L K I O S ...
>
> Zeus is the shining one also when Zeus is the Lycaion one ...
>
> The rosette would represent the first letter S of Seyr, Helladic
> name of Zeus. Furthermore it would remind of the (still extant)
> rosette of supporting stones at the base of the Early Helladic
> Circular Building on the hill of Tiryns.
>
> http://www.seshat.ch/home/tiryns.GIF
>
> In the above graphic I turned the Tiryns side of the Phaistos
> Disk so that the end of the spiral coincides with the main
> entrance of the acropolis. That orientation makes sense in many
> ways. Furthermore, the rosette in the center is aligned to the
> eight heavenly directions N NE E SE S SW W NW. And now there
> would be a further aspect, since the eight petals might also
> mark a calendar of 8 months; the short seasons of passage,
> namely spring and fall, during one month each, the long seasons
> winter and summer lasting 3 months each.
>
> While the four petals that form a vertical-horizontal cross
> denote the main heavenly directions north and south, east and
> west, the oblique cross formed by the four remaining petals
> mark the months of the equinoxes and solstices.
>
> A very simple yet a beautiful and complex calendar figure,
> well worthy of Zeus, who was the supreme Greek god already in
> the Early Helladic period of time.
>
> Regards Franz Gnaedinger
>
>
> > Around 2500 BC the soil in the Stonehenge area was one meter deep;
> > thousand years later it was almost completely gone, due to very
> > intensive farming and the felling of trees. Erosion, topped by
> > a climatic deterioration, may have been the reason for the Y and
> > Z holes of Stonehenge 3v from around 1500 BC. According to a map
> > in the Stonehenge book by David Souden, these have been rings of
> > 29 and 30 holes respectively. If the numbers are correct, the
> > shallow holes, which can't have taken up any stones and therefore
> > must have served another purpose, could have been a simple yet
> > amazingly good algorithm or "computer" for calculating up to
> > 17 lunations
> >
> > 30 29 30 29 30 29 30 29 30 29 30 29 30 29 30 29 30
> > 30 59 89 ...
> >
> > as explained in several previous messages. That simple algorithm
> > would have correlated the phases of the moon with the days of
> > the sun; synchronized the lunar with the solar cycle; supported
> > the heavenly couple from below; stimulated their love making;
> > and implored them to bestow their fertility on the fields and on
> > their human children, whose case may not yet be altogether lost.
> >
> > Heavy snow fell on the Swiss Alps and made them unpassable for
> > some two centuries. The Bronze Age settlement and stronghold
> > La Mutta Falera was abandoned around 1300 BC.
> >
> > Later on in the 13th and still in the 12th century BC Late
> > Mycenaean ware arrived in Switzerland, having been transported
> > via Italy and over the alps. There was new activity on La Mutta
> > Falera. A large menhir site was built, presumably using the
> > stones of the abandoned settlement, whose surrounding wall
> > measured up to 3 and even 5 meters across at the base. Follow
> > three photographs of the main menhir, taken on May 21, 2004:
> >
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera11.JPG
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera10.JPG
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera09.JPG
> >
> > A nearly total solar eclipse occurred on December 25, 1089 BC,
> > at 10.17. This would have been New Year's Day in the Surselva
> > according to my calendar reconstruction. A solar eclipse on
> > that day surely was an ominous event, and thus had been
> > commemorated on a rock at Falera and on at least two further
> > rocks in the Surselva. Here is the rock on the hill Mutta Falera.
> > On top a bowl, connected with a winding groove to a wide open
> > snake mouth engulfing the sun in the shape of another bowl:
> >
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera14.JPG
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera18.GIF
> >
> > And here is a view of the sacrificial rock at Falera, with
> > grovves and bowls that may again evoke the sun snake and the
> > moon snake:
> >
> > http://www.seshat.ch/home/falera19.JPG
> >
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