Re: Linear A tablet Hagia Triada 95

From: Franz Gnaedinger (frgn_at_bluemail.ch)
Date: 07/26/04 

Date: 25 Jul 2004 23:56:52 -0700

frgn@bluemail.ch (Franz Gnaedinger) wrote in message news:<2bf25455.0407250033.3cf02eab@posting.google.com>...

o8TY: you asked whether Ebla might have been a Cretan colony.
No, that was surely not the case. Ebla was a fairly big and
powerful kingdom around the crossings of various important
trading routes, however, situated in the wide open Syrian
plain, it had no natural protection, and so it was attacked
and finally absorbed by the Accadians.

Ebla's western neighbour was Ugarit on the Aegaean shore.
The Ugaritic tablets from the Amarna time, 15th century BC,
tell about gods and kings, heroes and fools from Ugarit,
and perhaps from the greater Syrian area as well. A god and
king by the name of Kret had payed for his bride, beautiful
Hurray, daughter of Pebel, king of Udn. When Pebel changed
his mind and was no longer willing to give Hurray to Kret,
this one supplied his large army with provisions for half
a year and set off toward Udn, which they reached in three
days' time. Peble, soundly sleeping, didn't hear the sound
of three million men marching, but he was eventually waked
by his braying donkey, his lawing ploughing-ox, his barking
dog, and by his clown grapheus. El got a headache from all
that noise. He reached out from his heavenly abode, seized
grapheus, and told him ... (here the tablet is damaged).
Baal, son of El, supported Kret, who finally won his bride
and married her. Later years of his kingship were marked
by droughts and famines. Yasib, a rebellious son of Kret,
aspired to take over his father's throne, but Kret cursed
him with a malediction, and later on restored his country
into well-being. As a god or a god-like king, Kret may
commemorate an early ruler, perhaps from Ebla, which, in
2300 BC, needed 11'700 employees alone for its state affairs
(archive of Tell Mardikh, King's House G). What if Kret
founded a colony in the fertile Mesara plain in Crete,
where he would have found what he missed at home, namely
access to the sea, and protecting mountains? If so, he would
have given his name to the island: Kret - Crete.

Kothar-and-Hasis was "the Vulcan of the Ugaritic gods,
the craftsman and artificer who fashioned everything from
beautiful jewellery to palaces fit for the gods" (Cyrus H.
Gordon). Now this god resided in Kephtiu, and Kephtiu was
the Egyptian name of Crete. Note well: a Syrian god resided
in Crete, not a Cretan god in Syria. Moreover, Baal mated
with a cow, and a bull calf was born to him. All elements
are there.

Regards Franz Gnaedinger

> Ladies and Gentlemen, here you are with the name of Minos
> in Linear A, as appearing on both sides of the tablet Hagia
> Triada 95, and, with a slight modification of the first sign,
> on another tablet, and perhaps on several more of the some
> 300 surviving Linear A tablets:
>
> o
> o o ooooooo
> o o o o
> o o o o ooooooo
> o o o o o o o
> o o o o o ooooooo
> o o o o o o o
> o o o o o
> o o o o o o
> o o o
>
>
> Cyrus H. Gordon, Jan Best, Richard Stieglitz and Walther Hinz
> believed in a northwestern Asian Minor origin of Linear A.
> Walther Hinz read the above signs as mi-nu-te, meaning Ebla
> in Syria, Tell Mardikh 40 kilometers south of Aleppo or Halab
> or perhaps Khalab. Ebla was known as mu-nu-ti-um in Eblaite
> around 2300 BC, as mnt in Ugaritic, and as Minnith in the
> Bible, Ezekiel 27 17. If minute was pronounced something like
> minuthe or minuth, it would be close to Minos. The first sign
> evokes the head of a bull, also in the modified version on
> the other tablet mentioned above. May there also be a Minoan
> correspondence for the second sign? Yes, the acrobat jumping
> over the bull. You see him standing on his feet, rising his
> arms high above the head, next time you see him standing on
> his hands, legs and feet raised high, then again on his feet.
> So this would be a witty sign, making use of the mind's
> ability of swiftly switching between to interpretations of
> the same graph. Now for the third sign. It reminds of the
> Tree of Life, widespread in Asia Minor and in Crete as well,
> see for example the Middle Minoan seal from the Idean cave,
> where Cretan Zeus was born.
>
> May the Minoans have come from Ebla munutium mnt Minnith
> minute minuthe minuth and founded a New Minos in the fertile
> Mesara plain in southern Crete? as the pilgrims from York
> in England founded a New York in America?
>
> Regards Franz Gnaedinger
>
>
>
> > An ex of mine can make the tip of her tongue vibrate as long
> > as she wishes, her mouth open, looks very funny. I envied her,
> > for I absolutely can't. Her l and r are close, mine are very
> > different sounds, and so I assumed that the dwellers of Ebla
> > in around 2300 BC and the Japanese who fixed their languages
> > and scripts might have been especially capable rhotacists,
> > as that friend of mine. Furthermore, the ideas, concepts and
> > laws of evolution and taxonomy also hold in culture, especially
> > when the cultural traditions are understood as epigenetic
> > phenomena in the way of Richard Dawkins.
>
> Extended phenotypes, of course, genetic expressions beyond
> the body limits.
>
> > As I said before, there is only one way to "prove" a decipherment
> > and translation, namely by demonstrating that it leads further
> > and opens a window on the past. Well, the work of Cyrus H. Gordon,
> > Jan Best, Richard Stieglitz, and Walther Hinz does lead further.
> > Here is a new idea, from this morning, just a couple of hours old.
> >
> > Da-du-ma-ta on Linear A tablet Hagia Triada 95 has to be read
> > and pronounced as Dadumatha (th as in English that). The name
> > of Ebla in 2300 BC was mu-nu-ti-um, which may accordingly have
> > been pronounced munuthium, or perhpas munuzium. The Linear A
> > name on HT 95 is mi-nu-te. If it was pronounced like minuthe
> > there would be a fascinating consequence:
> >
> > mi-nu-te mi-nu-the minuthe minos Minos
> >
> > One words glides over in the next one, and mi-nu-te ends up
> > in Minos. And it comes even better: the sign for mi on HT 95
> > (appearing on both sides) reminds of a bull-head, resembling
> > much the Phoenician sign for aleph, that was derived from
> > the head of a cow or a bull. So the name mi-nu-te for Ebla
> > contains the Bull of Minos.
> >
> > Ain't that a nice surprise for a rainy Samday morning?
>
> Saturday, of coarse; I was so taken with mi-nu-te and Minos
> that my English lost pace.
>
> > We still don't know where the Minoans come from. Perhaps
> > from Ebla, 40 km south of Aleppo?
> >
> > Regards Franz Gnaedinger www.seshat.ch

Quantcast