Re: Ossetians and Pashto similarities

From: alexV (alexV7623_at_comcast.net)
Date: 09/05/04


Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 13:13:24 -0400


"Daniel" <xenos@onetel.net.uk> wrote in message
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> "alexV" <alexV7623@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > I should only add that I wish I had a better understanding of the matter
> > myself. So far I have advanced so far as to see obvious inconsistencies
(in
> > others) when the material (genetic) evidence is not taken into account
but I
> > wish I could tell the *truth.* No, it is not the case. I cannot.
>
> theres a tribe in amazonia goes by the name of nua-nua - i think
> but my spelling needs apologies - im diagnosed dyslexic.
> in other primitive tribes theres a man::woman division. the men are the
> hunter gatherers and the woman folk nurse the young and carry out
> othre homely duties. this tribe is diferent to the rest. the food that
> they most value is the hearts and livers of 2 monkeys - pithecia monachus
> and lagothrix lagothrica. arm-eye co ordination is vital to hunt
> this prey because it lives way up in the rainforest canopy so they choose
> the best hunters and they can be man OR woman.
> how do they do it? when a child is born they they wait
> for the first few words. if pepaqua is spoekn first the child gets
> put in among the hundters and if metama in among the remainder.
> dont look too smart does it? theres more. when tests were conducted on
> the tribe turns out the hunters have a whole bunch of physiological
> characteristiscs that makes them better hunters than the others.
> and these characteristics are congenital - in plain talk it means they
> were there at birth. so it looks a lot like theres a link between
> first words said and huntin g ability - its a link between language
> and genetic predisposition. ive been scratching my head o n that
> for awhile but i cant figure it and this kind of work is not universally
> accetped - the reaction here will have told you somehting about that.
> imho this goes way back to the sixties and the polliticization of the
> campus by librals. aw theyre full of talk about freedom and
> individualizational ideals but deep down inside their dark core every
> one of them wants every one of us to be just the same inside as them.
> liberals - theyre not going to tell youu this - are communists at heart.
> they need us to be the same else their five year plans wont work. a
centrally
> controlled state relies on the uniformity of the human psyche it cant
> deal with real variation in temperament or aptitude. like so many
identical
> molecules in a cylinder we must react predictably to the regular push
> of the piston that compresses us. when they hear that langauge
> has a gentic component their utopian masterplan falls apart.
> buut i hope the day will come one day - just like with galileo - when
> the evidence is so strong it can not be denied. if we arent all
> pliant workers in a soul-destroying collective by then.
>
Nicely put. I can subscribe to almost 99% of what you said, although, given
a chance I would express it somewhat differently at least as the capital
letters go.

The language does have an absolutely undeniable genetic component. The
trouble is: on the highest levels of perfection the language manifestations
are so complicated that it is easily obscured by what they call
"environmental" influences. For instance, an ethnic Japanese born in the
USA. She is perhaps a fifth generation or more of Japanese Americans. She is
a highly skilled professional. She speak flawless English. How come that her
Japanese ancestry has not imprinted anything at all on the way she speaks,
her accent or anything? That has to be explained.

At the same time I am almost certain that the reason why some Amerindian
children do not do too good in school is that their Broca's or Wernicke's
areas are different from the mainstream American's and in essence cannot
really adjust, although some are able to do it.



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