Re: Roots of English language

From: Anti-imperialist (ai_at_anti-imperialist.net)
Date: 09/17/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:11:08 -0700

"M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote:
>
> Anti-imperialist <ai@anti-imperialist.net> wrote ...
> > "M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote:
> >
> > To consider another example, German Frühstück and
> > > Malayalam <prAtal> (both meaning breakfast) are related
> >
> > Well maybe they are related in a borrowing sense but probably not
> > genetic.
> >
> > > German Früh, Sanskrit <prAta> and English proto, all meaning early, are
> > > related via PIE.
> >
> > Ok, but it's not genetic
>
> It is genetic. <prAta> and Früh have the same PIE origin.
>
> > and we usually don't say cognate unless we talk
> > genetics, I think.
>
> Cognates are words of different languages that have a common etymology
> http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/cognate
>
> <prAtal> and Frühstück have the same meaning and are cognates because
> they have a common etymology.

Okey, but have you ever taken a Linguistics course? In my Historical
Linguistics grad level course, we only used cognates to mean direct
genetic relationship. Otherwise we say borrowing.

How do you know so much about Linguistics anyway? You really know a
lot. 

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