Re: History of French

From: Peter Dy (peterdy_at_sbcglobal.net)
Date: 09/18/04 

Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:09:10 GMT

"Jacques Guy" <jguy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:414C8CEB.6304@alphalink.com.au...
> Peter Dy wrote:
>
>> And you say that no previous instruction in pronunciation is necessary,
>> so
>> then how do they understand what "retroflex" and "alveolar ridge" mean?
>
> By pictures I suppose. That is how I was taught the Chinese series
> q, j, x versus c, z, s and ch, zh, sh.

You can use pictures to show the points of articulation, sure. But you
still have to describe what voicing is and how none of those sounds are
voiced. Just that is gonna give English-speaking students trouble. Then
you need to explain aspiration, which will again give them trouble.

I want to see exactly how Mxsmanic goes about it, including what he says
when he shows the pictures, since I've had trouble explaining the "rl" in
"world" to friends. It only takes him a few minutes and they leave doing it
correctly, so I imagine what he says to them fits into a nice, little
paragraph.

> Or by seeing it demonstrated, as a New-Hebridean native once
> demonstrated to me the difference between the two s's in his
> language,

Don't you think American "rl" might be hard to see?

Peter

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