Re: History of French

From: Brian M. Scott (b.scott_at_csuohio.edu)
Date: 09/18/04 

Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:55:55 -0400

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 00:02:42 GMT, Peter Dy
<peterdy@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<news:CWK2d.22331$ET1.6142@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com> in
sci.lang:

> "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:m56mk0tgome0qbq9i283c037k8o2lf1q6n@4ax.com...

>> Peter Dy writes:

>>> You're hilarious!

>> That's what the learners say, before I begin.

>>> Ok, since it is so easy, tell me how to explain the
>>> "rl" in "world".

>> I usually use diagrams, but all you really have to do is move from that
>> retroflex to the alveolar ridge and you're pretty much there.

> Uh, that's pathetic. Are you joking? That's the worst pronunciation
> description I've ever seen on this NG.

Imagine what his explanation would be like if his own /r/
were 'bunched r' instead of retroflex!

[...]

Brian

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