Re: History of French

From: Ruud Harmsen (realemailseesite01_at_rudhar.com)
Date: 09/20/04 

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:35:41 +0200

Sun, 19 Sep 2004 22:27:18 GMT: "Peter Dy" <peterdy@sbcglobal.net>: in
sci.lang:

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>"Ruud Harmsen" <realemailseesite01@rudhar.com> wrote in message
>news:ft0sk05sl05220n34384q5ojc1i5tbtt9a@4ax.com...
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>> Probably hard to describe phonetically, but clearly noticeable.
>> Peter's observations for AmE are consistent with my own regarding
>> Dutch. About the same rate of change. Differences difficult to
>> pinpoint, by clearly recognizable. 30 years is long enough. That's
>> roughly one generation, so it's not surprising my children talk
>> noticeably differently than their parents. I heard my sister's chidren
>> talk again last weekend, and they talk different _and_ the same as
>> mine, due to a different mix of regional, parental and modernist
>> influences. They too talk differently than both their parents, who
>> don't both talk the same either, due to different though similar
>> backgrounds.
>> And all this happens in a country 300 by 200 km.
>
>
>Isn't the American-like "r" in words like "daar" something that happened in
>the last 30 years, for example?

Sort of, probably. More like 20 years. And it isn't exactly the same
as an American r. And it isn't used in all positons, in fact it's
often combined with a very non-American uvular r in
non-final/non-pre-final-consonsnt position. 

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Ruud Harmsen - http://rudhar.com

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