Re: Branch of English or a Separate Language?

From: Jackie Mulheron (JackieMulheron_at_aol.com)
Date: 09/27/04 

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:46:16 +0100

"allan connochie" <allan@EASYNET.CO.UK> wrote in message
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>
> "Jackie Mulheron" <JackieMulheron@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "allan connochie" <allan@EASYNET.CO.UK> wrote in message
> > news:415067b9@news.greennet.net...
> >
> > The Northumbrian Language Society
> > > have been welcomed in to the committees but only as observers. It's
> felt
> > > that they don't have enough recognition from the government, tradition
> and
> > > historical canon of literatue, or support within Northumberland itself
> to
> > > warrant full language status. Don't blame me good folk of Alnwick I'm
> only
> > > the piano player.
> >
> > Maybe they should link up with Scots. After all Northumbrian is the root
> of
> > Scots.
>
> I don't think that it would in practice make any difference as far as the
> treaty goes if the Northumbrian dialect were redefined as a dialect of
Scots
> rather than a dialect of English. Scots (excluding Ulster Scots of
course)
> only enjoys the limited protection and promotion it has within Scotland
> itself. Same for Gaelic! Never mind the linguistic differences I think
for
> a whole load of other reasons the folk of Northumberland would never
accept
> that definition anyway.

And rightky so. I wouldn't suggest that Northumbrian subsume itself as a
dialect of Scots but that it could work in tandem with the Scots langauge
societies for better recogntion.

In some ways Scots is the child of Northumbrian so subsuming it would be a
bit of an insult although I think it may help it if it linked up with the
Scots groups since they are more closely related than Northumbrian with
modern Standard English which has a different root.

Basically it was a suggestion to help Northumbrian gain more status by
working together with Scots.

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