Re: Origin of Chinese spoken languages - 2nd evidence

From: SJ (donot_at_send.spam.net)
Date: 10/21/04 

Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC)

"Dylan Sung" <dylanwhs.tsktsktsk@pacific.net.hk> wrote in
news:2tpunvF22cbliU1@uni-berlin.de:

>
>"SJ" <donot@send.spam.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns958951971EBB6donotsendspamnet@131.118.254.130...
>> PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:jeken05mteidmunlvhmga8u6nrijd91f9q@4ax.com:
>>
>>>There were no equivalent levels of civilization in
>>>Korea or Japan then and not for more than a thousand years more.
>>
>> Your argument may become a little bit closer to reality if your
>> 'Korea' here means the current national boundary of S. and N. Korea.
>> Most naive Chinese assume that the boundary of ancienit 'CHINESE'
>> civilizations equals
>> to the current boundary of People's Republic of China. Thus, Goguryo
>> should
>> be 'CHINESE' because most of its territory located within the
>> boundary of their goverment's directl rule.
>>
>> They seem to believe that their ancestors had mysterious supernatural
>> power
>> to foretell the existence of PRC and its national boundary. I hope a
>> piece of oracle bones could support their belief.
>>
>> SJ
>
>I think folks should read the following article to see where some
>stances on Korea's past have arisen, by Dr. Pankaj N. Mohan, a lecturer
>of Korean studies at the University of Sydney:
>
>http://eurasia.nias.ku.dk/activities/publications/niasnytt/2002-4/imagin
>ed.htm
>
>Dyl.

What is your point? Those problem are unique in Korea around the world?
Or, are you claiming that Chinese does not have that kind of problem?

In any country, many viewpoints or schools exist to check and argue each
other. Look at today's U.S. politics (red vs. blue). Look at Japan
(liberalists and nationalists still fight in history). Korea is not an
exception. A Korean problem is that kind of internal conflict and self-
criticism has been too strong compared with China or Japan, IMHO. Korea
is still the front line for ideological conflicts.

The Chinese problem is that such degree of diversity simply is not
allowed by their communist party, who initiated a history project called
'Northeast (Dongbei) project'. The communist party and Chinese scholars
now claim that Korean goguryo was 'CHINESE', although it is obvious that
goguryo people spoke in Altaic, specifically old Korean. The problem of
nationalism is more serious in China as we see in the 'Northeast
project'.

SJ.

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