Re: Beowulf was the king of Goths /redux/

From: Stelucia (Stelucia_at_altavista.net)
Date: 11/13/04


Date: 13 Nov 2004 06:44:39 -0800


"Alan Crozier" <alan.crazier@telia.com> wrote in message news:<3d1ld.121715$dP1.418198@newsc.telia.net>...
> "Stelucia" <Stelucia@altavista.net> wrote in message
> news:b1eb5832.0411120326.1cb7b27e@posting.google.com...
>
> <snip>
> > As a note,
> > "ungurean" doesn't mean a Hungarian, it means a Romanian from
> > Transylvania, also called Tara Ungureasca.
>
> Interesting. So what do the Romanians call the Hungarians to distinguish
> them from the Romanians of Transylvania? Is it "ungur"?
>
> Alan

Alan

In Romanian language, the suffix "ean" designates a geographical
origin, not ethnicity. The archaic word "ungurean" was used until the
middle of XIX century to label an ethnic Romanian from Transylvania.
Nowadays we use the term "ardelean" for a Romanian of Transylvanian
origin, Ardeal being the Romanian name for Trasylvania.
Moldovean means a person from Moldova and muntean a person from
Muntenia but also someone originally from the mountains ("munte" is
mountain in Romanian).

As for Hungarians, they are usually called maghiar/maghiari if they
are ethnic Hungarians living in Romania and ungur/unguri if they are
citizens of Hungary. Following a similar pattern, the term "moldovean"
is used for people living in the Romanian province of Moldova while
the citizens of Republic of Moldova are informally called
basarabean/basarabeni as the Moldova between Prut and Dniestr was also
known under the name of Basarabia.



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