Re: Phaistos Disk side B

From: Dylan Sung (dylanwhs.tsktsktsk_at_pacific.net.hk)
Date: 11/18/04 

Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:31:59 -0000

"Dylan Sung" <dylanwhs.tsktsktsk@pacific.net.hk> wrote in message
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> "Angantyr" <angantyr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Dylan Sung" <dylanwhs.tsktsktsk@pacific.net.hk> wrote in message
>> news:303jp6F2r48qrU2@uni-berlin.de...
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>>> "Angantyr" <angantyr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mY2dnUt4_sU_CQHcRVn-2g@rogers.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Jacques Guy" <jguy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:419C7186.7BFB@alphalink.com.au...
>>>>> Now that I have found my "treasured" copy of the famous
>>>>> decipherment by the famous scholar, I used dejanews to
>>>>> retrieve:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Des Small" <des.small@bristol.ac.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:yyrj1xf1u9gk.fsf@pc156.maths.bris.ac.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>>> > In the message with ID <95lomb$9v9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> (which bears
>>>>>> > your
>>>>>> > name) of that date:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > """
>>>>>> > Jean Faucounau says that only the original of the Phaistos Disk
>>>>>> > counts, but he shows no photograph of side B, only a drawing, which
>>>>>> > he
>>>>>> > manipulated by replacing an original pictogram that appears twice
>>>>>> > on
>>>>>> > side B and only on side B (Evans 20) by a different drawing of his
>>>>>> > own. He claims to be a scholar, but he is a hobby linguist, and his
>>>>>> > cheating turns him in a kook.
>>>>>> > """
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed there are no photographs of the disk, only two drawings pp.8
>>>>> and
>>>>> 6,
>>>>> purported to be "d'après Evans". The closest things to "photographs"
>>>>> are appallingly poor-quality black-and-white... what? rubbings?... of
>>>>> individual signs or groups of signs, pp.68, 74, 76, 78, 130, 133, 134,
>>>>> 136, 138, 142, 144. Now I don't know what "Evans 20" might be. If
>>>>> the grrreat scholar follows Evan's nomenclature, that is the sign
>>>>> that looks like a conch shell (pp.84-85). However, there are no such
>>>>> signs on the drawing of face B p.9. Further, the grrreat scholar
>>>>> writes p. 85, next to a drawing of the "conch shell": "Evans...
>>>>> vit dans ce sign un 'vase muni d'une anse'" And Evan's drawing of
>>>>> side B does indeed show two signs looking like a flat-bottomed
>>>>> amphora with a handle, one in group 5, the other in group 13.
>>>>>
>>>>> They nothing at all like the various representations of sign 20 on
>>>>> pp.84-85.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now the task is to find a clear enough photo of side B. Et
>>>>> c'est pas de la tarte.
>>>>
>>>> How about this site: http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_9.htm, which
>>>> shows photographs of both sides.
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh, dear. There isn't a single reference to JF's book, and there seem to
>>> be links to other sites about Phaistos Disk. I wonder why.
>>
>> I noticed that too when I was searching for the photos. There are
>> references and links to other books and other decipherments of the
>> Paistos Disk, but nothing about Faucounau.
>>
>> It appears that Faucounau does not even receive the recognition of
>> disagreement. Instead, he is simply ignored.
>
> How humiliating.
>
> Dyl.

Just as matter of interest, I tried to look for a copy of JF's book to buy
on Amazon.co.uk and it comes up with ISBN 2738477038 and

Le déchiffrement du disque de Phaistos: Preuves et conséquences
Jean Faucounau

Edition: Unknown Binding

Unknown Binding 192 pages (1999)
Publisher: L'Harmattan
ISBN: 2738477038

As I don't speak french or read it (last time was about 20 years ago as a
school boy), it wouldn't be of much use to me. Given the fact that majority
of websites on the net are in English, then the proportion of people
searching for JF's book and being able to understand it, grows less. Not
only is his sales affected by the language the book is written in, even a
big bookstore like Amazon does not stock it, and there is a time lag to
order and get it. Such difficulty in obtaining such a book would drive
anyone with a interest in the subject to turn to more accessible sources. So
suing poor old Franz for the lack of sales is injust.

Or perhaps the francophone world is much more interested in the PD than is
the English speaking world, and Franz's comments has affected the
francophone world's opinion of it. That seems as far fetched as the
improbably 59,000 hits per day for one particular site Franz attributes to
Rochaix's research. What I'd like to know is did Franz only write his
criticisms of JF's work only in English? How much affect would that have on
the francophone PD world?

Dyl.

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