Re: <a> - front or central? [was Re: Another Daniels screwup...]

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From: Des Small <des.small@bristol.ac.uk>
Date: 23 Nov 2004 10:30:30 +0000
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Greg Lee <greg@ling.lll.hawaii.edu> writes:

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> I've heard a tape of Jones saying the "cardinal vowels".

You mean his classic hit "The Eight Primary Cardinal Vowels,
Pronounced Long"? Available at all good record stores, and at
<http://www.let.uu.nl/~audiufon/data/e_cardinal_vowels.html>.

> They sounded really strange. I don't see how they can be used as a
> reference, and I wonder if anyone actually does so. And if so,
> whether they should.

I keep a copy next to my platinum-uridium kilogram, for sure. But you
can't officially learn them aurally, but only orally from an annointed
expert.

> How can we standardize symbol usage until we know what it is
> we're symbolizing?

Economists have disputed for a long time what money really is; my
ignorance has yet to stop me wanting more of it.

Des
can also quite like a duck 

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