Re: Italian vs Turkish

From: Aslan Kral (aslanski2002_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 01/13/05 

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:50:54 +0200

"mb" <azythos2@hotmail.com>, haber iletisinde sunlari
yazdi:1105551287.540241.200550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

: I don't care if you want to call it John or Mary.
: So replace by "John" or "Mary":

Neither do I. Infix is a term which is necessary for explaining some things
in some other languages. Some people are trying to explain Turkish
suffixation with their terms.

: _In_ this case, it is not the -e of a wish form like verb-e "gele". The
: -e- here is not part of the -bil suffix.

Functionally I see it as atomic. You can find more if you dig.
Example:
Suffix -le/-la (= En: with) is also used as "ile" (postposition) which in
turn comes from
il-e. il is a verb meaning attach/tie/fasten and -e is the same suffix you
are talking about.
However it is more and more preferred as a suffix in present Turkish.

: The -u- is not part of it
I thought you would come up with something completely different after saying
"No similarities again".
I don't see much difference between -umus and -mus. Turkish also
had -miz/-muz.

I didn't expect you to say they are similar but what do you consider
similar?
Can you see any similarity between pesce (It) and fish (En)? As far as I
know both come from Latin.

Relevant Pages

  • Re: The Turkic Languages in a Nutshell
    ... probably akin to the -ar in the plural suffix -lar. ... but anyway (I tried to follow the forms from Clauson when possible): ... before that Menges, but he has recanted. ... notice I have ommited turkish omuz as this is a greek ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Albanian seems odd
    ... >> osiem. ... >> Joe: ... > It is true for Turkish but it is the same suffix for some Turkic ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: ibriq
    ... Still not convinced that -uk in topuk is a suffix. ... We have such new examples in Modern Turkish as well: ... Can it be said that Turkish has -m suffix that makes nouns by attaching ... They are all grammatically incorrect but in general use today. ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Albanian seems odd
    ... Did German once have it, ... > some sort of assimilation at play (which would account for the great ... It is true for Turkish but it is the same suffix for some Turkic ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Rising tones to indicate questions.
    ... Yusuf B Gursey yazdi: ... a question mark) is sometimes used as the only means of ... Turkish also has a suffix (though it is written ... > it was written seperately in ottoman turkish and in modern turkish. ...
    (sci.lang)