Re: Hindi and Farsi counting words are identical

From: Yusuf B Gursey (ybg_at_theworld.com)
Date: 02/05/05 

Date: 4 Feb 2005 19:40:32 -0800

Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
> ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> > > On 4 Feb 2005 17:32:09 -0800, "ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com"
> > > <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >... and in the case of <ful>, a^ , i^ & u^ are not normally
used
> > any
> > > >more
> > >
> > > Says who?
> >
> > I can't remember who; I read somewhere that they fell out of use a
> long
> > time back. Galata, Istanbul, Kus,adasi, Turk Hava Yollari, etc.
don't
> > have diacritics, so it isn't normal for long vowels to be marked.
>
>
> these words don't have long vowels. the other diacritcs are used.

only hava is arabic, hawa:' . only if the meter of an arabic poem
demanded it would pedantic register heva^ be used.

>
> I said *optional*.
>
> at one point the ^ was removed, butit sort of made a comeback, at
least
> unofficially. it is usually an optional sign, normally used only when
a
> confusion meaning might arise.
>
>
> >
> > > >, so Turks wouldn't necessarily know not to pronounce it as
> [fu:l].
> > > > Ergo, neither <ful> nor <fu^l> might be correctly pronounced.

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