Re: SJ et al 's Theories [was Re: lunar aspect of Egyptian Horus Eye series]

From: Austin P. So (Hae Jin) (nobody_at_nowhere.com)
Date: 03/03/05 

Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 10:09:05 -0800

Dylan Sung wrote:
> "Tak To" <takto@alum.mit.edu.-> wrote in message
> news:UdGdnR6sLsNnpLvfRVn-jw@comcast.com...

>>was not that the Dongyi were undefeatable, but that they were
>>unassimilatable, and thus no Chinese is allowed to claim the
>>Dongyi people as ancestors. As to what happened to the proud
>>Dongyi people (mass suicide? migration to the Korean peninsular?),
>>he could not give an answer, yet he was adamant that no Dongyi
>>were left behind "save a few stragglers".

Migration towards the peripheries of east asia (you know...beyond that
wall that Huang Di built)...?

Perhaps even a return back to east asia by conquest and establishing a
succession of what are attributed as "chinese dynasties"...? Possibly
even effacing what was original Han culture?

> In the Shijing, the lands to north of old Shang territory as far as the
> state of Yan were given over to Zhou's loyal commanders. It was three years
> from conquest till the Zhou King gave audience to Jizi (aka Kija) to ask him
> to help manage the remaining Shang peoples, but he declined. In later tales
> it says he went to Chaoxian (Chosen). If this latter bit is mythology, then
> that leaves the problem of how so many Dongyi passed through Zhou controlled
> territory to end up in the "Korean territory" without much comment or
> conflict.

So...because the Shijing is the only surviving historical source
describing this period of time, does it mean it is an accurate unbiased
account of east asian history? Do american history texts talk about the
history and culture of Canada? Or french of british?

And Mr. Manasala complains about Indo-european ethnocentrism...:)...

>>The following is not from SJ but of equal entertainment value:
>> http://brd1.chosun.com/board/files/GOGURYU01/woo040212-13_2.gif
>>[N.B. This might have been post by someone with the intention to
>>discredit such theories.]

SJ's problem was in attributing the historiography in Han-Dan-Go-Gi as
an apocryphal text of Koreans and Koreans only. It could more easily be
considered as one for the entire Dong Yi. Though I must say, it is
interesting that a text compiled in the 1920's can presage a lot of
conclusions of human migration patterns inferred through genetic analysis...

Food for thought...

Anyway...my real point in jumping in is in mentioning the Tripaka
Koreana, which apparently has 50,000 variant chinese characters.

http://www.sutra.re.kr/english/default.asp#
http://211.46.71.250:8088/condsearch/

Any comments on that?

Austin

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