Re: Academic/scientific journals in Esperanto?

From: Seán O'Leathlóbhair (jwlawler_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 03/16/05


Date: 16 Mar 2005 03:28:58 -0800


Richard Herring wrote:
> In message <1110965468.547332.20100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
Seán
> O'Leathlóbhair <jwlawler@yahoo.com> writes
> >
> >Manuel M Campagna wrote:
> >> "=?iso-8859-1?B?U2XhbiBPJ0xlYXRobPNiaGFpcg==?="
(jwlawler@yahoo.com)
> >writes:
> >> > Manuel M Campagna wrote:
> >> > writes
>
> [...]
> >>
> >> Let's not forget Manx.
> >
> >Are there are living native speakers left?
>
> It's been revived in recent years, so there are certainly living
> speakers, but I don't know about "native". I don't believe there's a
> continuous chain of L1 speakers.

I did not know that it had been successfully revived. Do you know how
well it is going? It is an interesting question whether these new
speakers are native. I would say not but if they continue and have
children who learn the language then they would presumably be natives -
but possibly of a new Manx language rather than the old one. I expect
that the same applies to Hebrew, there are surely native speakers of
Hebrew alive today but is it the same language as the old Hebrew?

> > But you are right it is
> >(was) a close relative of Irish and Scottish.
>
> Closer to Irish, I think, though the completely different
orthography
> doesn't help you to spot the resemblances.

I had forgotten that detail, I glanced briefly at a description of Manx
once but have forgotten most of what I read. Geography would suggest
that it would be closer to Irish since, on a good day, you can see
Ireland from the Isle of Mann.

> [...]
> >
> >Don't forget Cornish, a relative of Welsh and Breton. It also has
no
> >remaining native speakers but some are attempting to resurrect it.
I
> >don't know whether it died before or after Manx.
>
> Before. Cornish died out in 1777 or 1891 depending on your criteria:
> http://www.shimbo.co.uk/language/language.htm
>
> The last native speaker of Manx died in 1974:
> http://www.iomguide.com/manxlanguage.php

Thanks again. Do you know how the Cornish revivalists are getting on?

 
> --
> Richard Herring

--
Seán O'Leathlóbhair


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