Re: Scribal inconsistencies in Syllabic Writing

grapheus_at_www.com
Date: 03/17/05 

Date: 17 Mar 2005 05:04:09 -0800

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> On 16 Mar 2005 03:32:36 -0800, grapheus@www.com wrote:
>
> >> >SAME EXPLANATION as hereabove. You could find similar "scribal
> >> >incoherences" in Mycenaean or in the Cypriot Syllabic script.
> >>
> >> No we don't.
> >
> >THIS IS ANOTHER FALSE ASSERTION, made by a follower of the
> >"Risch-Chadwick Theory, just to DISPARAGE an IMPORTANT DISCOVERY.
> >Scholars of GOOD FAITH may judge :
> >
> >Concerning the "translation" by the script of DOUBLE CONSONANTS in
> >Linear B for instance, one may read in the Ventris-Chadwick's
> >"Documents..." on p. 45 and ss, that, as the Linear B script has no
> >special signs for rendering them, sometimes they are NOT WRITTEN,
> >sometimes they are WRITTEN with a syllabic sign.
> >Exemple : Myc. pe-ma corresponds to Greek <sperma> but Myc.
Si-mi-te-u
> >to Greek <Sminthos>.
>
> Right (Smintheus, in fact). Note that <sperma> is _always_
> written pe-ma, not a single time is it written *se-pe-ma,
> which is simply bad Linear B. Si-mi-te-u, as far as I know,
> occurs on a single tablet, and is therefore also never
> written otherwise. The spellings are consistent.
>
> >As for the Syllabic Cypriot Script, the same thing happens,
generally
> >explained by the "Syllabic Cutting" made by the scribe, WHICH MAY
> >VARIES . For instance, on the well known "Pigreus Seal", one may
read :
> >Pi-ki-re-wo = Greek <Pigreus>, with cutting *Pik-rewo(s), where
the
> >other Cypriot scribes would have written Pi-ke-re-wo-se., with
> >"normal" cutting *Pi-gre- and final -s translated by the
SE-syllable.
>
> You say it yourself: "the other Cypriot scribes".
> How many scribes wrote the Phaistos Disk?

ONE.
As ONE scribe wrote the "Bronze Tablet from Idalion". And this guy
wrote , for instance :
on line 7 : ka-se- a-po-to-li-se = <kas a ptolis> (usual writing)
but on line 4 : ka-sa-pa-i (Greek : kas pai>)
and on line 5 : ka-a-ti = < kas anti>

So much for the "SCRIBAL COHERENCE" that you pretend to exist when the
scribe is unique !...

And I could find more examples, most of them coming from the "syllabic
cutting", which is -OBVIOUSLY for anybody but you!- the reason why, in
the Phaistos Disk'text, the scribe has written "pi-sto-ma" (cutting
*pi-sto-ma) , but "lae-yi-to" (Greek <lêiston> with cutting :
*lae-yis- ton ). (See what I wrote about Cypriot Pi-ki (and not
ke!)-re-u )

But, of course, whatever wrong argument is useful to denigrate a
discovery you don't like...

grapheus

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