Re: mistake in Wehr's Arabic dictionary ?

From: Raymond Roy (belamiNoSpam_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 03/28/05 

Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:21:22 GMT

Le 27 Mar 2005 14:35:26 -0800, "Yusuf B Gursey" <ybg@theworld.com>
écrivit :

>
>Raymond Roy wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> according to Wehr, there is a verb 'tafarzana' derived from the
>> (Persian?) root 'frzn' (queen in chess). Now, Wehr classifies it in
>the
>
>firza:n "chess queen"
>
>new persian farzi:n ("chess queen", wise, learned man); middle persian
>fra*ch*i:n (probably intepreted as "advisor" perhaps taken as plural
>fara:zi:n by arabic)
>
>new persian farza:n "wisdom, learning, wise"
>
>Enc. of Islam II "Shatrandj"
>
>> II form. In my understanding of the Arabic verbal system, 'tafarzana'
>
>it's the II form of quadriliteral verb.
>
>> looks more like a VII form verb. With a II form verb, I would expect
>a
>
>you mean V (tafa33ala) not VII (infa3ala)

You're right, I meant V. Thanks for the explanations.

Raymond

>> doubling of a middle radical; nothing like this happens here. On the
>> other hand, an Arabic verb beginning with 'ta-' sounds to me like a
>VI
>> or VII form.
>
>the II form of quadriliterals conjugates like V of triliterals,
>in this case imp. indic. yatafarzanu .
>
>form I quad. conjugates like form II trilit.
>
>cons. 2 and 3 replace doubled 2
>
>
>cons. 2 and 3 of quadriliterals
>
>
>>
>> Can someone sort that out?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Raymond
>

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