Re: How close is Vietnamese to Mandarin or Cantonese?

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter T Daniels <grammatim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

>> Really? Why do they spell the Cantonese syllable [t'Oi] as
>> "tai" or "ty", rather than "toy"?

Peter> Are you not aware of dialects of English in which /tay/ is
Peter> pronounced [tOj]?

No. Examples with example words?


>> FYI, "typhoon" is [t'Oi22 fUN55] in Cantonese. So, if you
>> think "typhoon" came from Cantonese, you not only have to
>> explain the discrepancy in the final "n", but also the wrongly
>> spelt diphthong in the first syllable.

Peter> Can you point to _any_ English word that ends with, or even
Peter> contains, the sequence "oong" /uwN/?

But the sound of [fUN55] would better be transcribed with "-ung", as
in "Fung Shui", "Pung" (an Anglised Mahjong jargon). That doesn't
rhyme with "sung" and "hung", though.

BTW, how native does the word "kamquat" look?


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