Re: Information about the ten tribes in the On-Ogur Hungarian confereration.



ranjit_mathews@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
> > ranjit_mathews@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > > > incidentally, Menges shows that in "long range" correspondences turkic
> > > > /z/ corresponds to one type of dravidian r
>
> > > <zh> is the typical romanization of a Dravidian liquid an
> > > ancient Indian phonetician called "a type of r". Examples: Kozhikode,
> > > Tamizh.
> >
> > turkish r is NEVER confused with *zh* ,
> > which exists as a seperaret
> > phoneme coming from foreign (usually persian or french) words.
>
> Dravidian <zh> is nothing like that; it is frictionless. It is used for

then don't render it with *zh*

> borrowed English words with an untrilled English r; "stores"* would
> read as stozhs when transliterated from Malayalam to Roman.
> * For whatever reason, a store is called a "stores" rather than a
> "store" in Malayalam
>
> > turkish r is lightly trilled.
>
> The Malayalam <zh> can have friction in foreign accents, thereby
> possibly sounding like Czech r^ or Chinese r. I couldn't hear the
> Turkish r trilled in a terminal position; it sounded substantially like
> a Czech r^.


your interpretation of turkish sounds has always been very peculiar,
and others seem to debate you about english. in final position, turkish
r even has a tendency to drop, similar to the nearly regular condition
in Karachay.

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