Re: _Verum Et Factum Convertuntur_ (or: Surprised By Syntax)

Des Small wrote:
> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > Herman Rubin wrote:
> > > When you have seen the collections of characters produced by
> > > college students claiming to be reasonably intelligent written
> > > communications, or heard the questions which are not intelligible
> > > because the words have nothing to do with any remotely reasonable
> > > understanding of the topic, youn will not take that position.
> >
> > I'm starting to gather that you're deaf and signless and that to you
> > written language is the sum and substance of language.
>
> It seems that langwidge, for Herman, properly aspires to the condition
> of mathematics.

As I read postings in this thread, I keep trying to deduce what the
posters think the difference is between natural language and
mathematics. And keep failing. Is it whether the symbols have
phonetic spellings? Is it the structure of expressions --
tree-like versus something else? Is it the way inferences are
expressed or checked -- in accordence with their form or with their
interpretation? Is it the formalizability of the system of
inference? Or what?

Greg

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Relevant Pages

  • Re: Oy, meh hayah lanu
    ... >>>So what is possible without a fundamental realm in which everyone is on ... it is expressible in a symbolic language, ... Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University ...
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  • Re: _Verum Et Factum Convertuntur_ (or: Surprised By Syntax)
    ... >>>written language is the sum and substance of language. ... >communicate just fine orally are ipso facto not incapable of ... are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. ... Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University ...
    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Concepts are more fundamental.
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    (sci.lang)
  • Re: Easy as ABG
    ... >>Herman Rubin wrote: ... >>> musical score in in the language of music. ... > Music is not used as a language, ... > accept that language must be limited to speech or derived ...
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  • Re: _Verum Et Factum Convertuntur_ (or: Surprised By Syntax)
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