Re: [Hebrew] dagesh qal - special case question

In article <42EC1069.54D9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> Helmut Richter wrote:

>> "birk_ato" (my blessing), "birk_atk_a" (your(sg) blessing), and so on. Now,

(Ignore the little bug.)

>> is it "birk_atk_em" (your(pl) blessing) or "birk.atk_em"? The reason why I
>> suspect that the first Kaf gets a Dagesh in this very case is that the word
>> is constructed like "birk.at" with a Patach after the Kaf as distinct from
>> the other examples like "birk_ato", "birk_atk_a" , ... having a Qamatz
>> after the Khaf. Does this reasoning hold water?

> Dagesh vs. rafe doesn't have to do with the following vowel.

In principle yes. The reasoning was not really based on the following
vowel, but much more simply on the assumption that identically constructed
forms are more likely to show the same behaviour, e.g. "birk_ati",
"birk_atk_a", "birk_atek_" , "birk_ato", "birk_atah", ... all the same.
However, "birk_atk_em" and "birk_atk_en" look different in their vowel
pattern, thus the analogy does no longer hold.

> want to be able to interpret Masoretic orthography, you need to
> understand the derivation of each form, and not just know all the
> surface forms.

But I do even know all the surface forms.

These are indeed three different questions:

1. What are the surface forms?
2. Is there a rule to which the surface formes adhere for remembering them?
3. What is the explanation for the different forms?

Helmut Richter
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