Re: Indo-European Origins and Geography

Darkstar wrote:
>
> To Christopher Culver:
>
> Excuse me if I'm rushing ahead without providing sufficient
> explanation. The point at my site is that people travel only where
> geography and abscence of other obstacles allow. Hence, the idea that
> we can calculate the most natural migration routes just looking at the
> map.
> Now, most scholars agree that IEs moved into Europe from the Black Sea,
> the steppes or the Danube estuary. Right? Right. Now, if there were no
> mountains in Europe, then we'd get a smooth Prakrit-like distribution
> of languages centered around rivers, just as we have in India. But
> because there are the Carpathians, the initial PIE group split into
> group A that went to the north along the Wisla and Odra (the
> Proto-Germanics) and finally turned up in southern Danmark by c. 1200
> BC (just as you say), and group B, which went along the Danube (the
> hypothetical Italo-Celts which is not attested well in linguistics
> because it could have existed only for a short time). As this subgroup
> B ran into the Alps it split up into subgroup B1 which turned to Italy
> (Italic languages), and subgroup B2 that went along the upper Danube
> between the Alps and Sudeten and finally showed up as the Celts in
> eastern France by about 1000 BC.
> My am I so certain about it? Because this follows from geography data.
> This seems to be the most natural migration trail across Europe when
> you move from the Black Sea region.
> Do you see what I mean?

All you have to do to get people to believe you is to show shared
morphological innovations within each of the subgroups you identify via
your watersheds.
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@xxxxxxx
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