Re: ASCII convention


Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> 8 Oct 2005 14:10:43 -0700: "Yusuf B Gursey" <ybg@xxxxxxxxxxxx>: in
> sci.lang:
>
> >what is the recommended convention for representing *letters* which may
> >not be identical to the phonemes? [ ... ]is for actual speech, / ... /
> >is for phonemes, how about the just the leters, asuming an appropriate
> >transliteration system? i.e. "in an inscription one finds y - w - s -
> >f" (but do this more economically). in article, a well known arabist
> >recommends italics, and criticisez an author using /... / (IIRC such a
> >crticiism was voiced in an earlier post) which is not possible in an
> >ASCII post. so how do it?
>
> <.....> ?
>
> In fact, phoneme symbols can be chosen freely, because phonemes only
> have meaning within the framework of a single language under
> consideration. That is, if the transscription used corresponds well to
> phonemes. I think for Classical Arabic and MSA, that is largely the
> case.
> So using /y/ as a phoneme symbol for what usually sounds as IPA [j]
> can be quite OK, provided it is explained.

but in unvoweled script it may represent /y/ or /i:/ or /a"/ for [a:],
NB in the Qur'an one has <twry(t)> for classical tawra:(t) "Torah" and
IIRC a few other non-final examples.

and what of the question: what is <jnyf>? answer: jini:f for
[*zh*&ne:v] or strictly speaking [Z&ne:v], i.e. "Geneva"

or some baffling foreign name in a medieval manuscript, or when
discussing Ancient North Arabian etc. .


> So I think /.../ is also correct.

it raises objections from "purists".

>
> --
> Ruud Harmsen - http://rudhar.com

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