Re: Linguistic Agonies


"Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim" <Jdibrahim@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Dylan Sung wrote:
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>> Is this a manifesto, Dr. JI?
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> Well, Dylan "the native speaker" terrorism has robbed many a good
> English teacher of professional opportunities. In addition it is a

Are you complaining that native speakers are taking away opportunities from
teachers of English? Why is this "terrorism"? When I was learning French in
school, there were a succession of French language teaching assistants who
aided the class with their insights on spoken French. Moreover, the "native
speaker" has the advantage of having a cultural insight into the use of a
language that a learner may not have experience of.

> source of discrimination and arraogance as you may have noticed, adding
> more borders. Particularly in the case of English it is time we stopped
> this nonesense. I have met a lot of people who say being American or

Are you complaining that people are criticising your ideas?

> English "native speaker" doesn't mean quality. In fact some of the
> sloppiness and unintelligibility make communicatipon more difficult. In

Dr. JI, perhaps you should reconsider your spelling in light of what you
said.

> addition, we use English not only to communicate with the English and
> with the Americans. Successful communication with the people's of the

If you didn't use English for those living in Britain and America, what do
you propose using instead?

> world necessitates a more nuetral standard and away from the varieties
> which have been imposed upon us so far. In general we need a complete
> freedom from the shackles of linguitic identity the source of many
> human tragedies and conflicts.
>

Some people will never get further than the outskirts of their town all
their lives. Similarly, some people will roam their own country and also
abroad. If anything, intelligibility has increased because of the media, and
what we hear from other lands as well. I don't find your standpoint neutral,
since you conflate your arguments with your own political outlook, without
thinking about the good things the things you are rankled with.

Successful communication is what works between people. Everything else is
politics or ignorance.

Dyl.


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